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...the Nagger
07-28-2013, 08:21 AM
Like I always have a way to intensify certaiin punches

If u read with understand and can somewhat catch the flow, which I can tell who does based off how they break my verse down, the punch will just HIT seemingly at perfect timing. Its gone seem like the best shit ever

SiK
07-28-2013, 08:46 AM
Not underdstanding

...the Nagger
07-28-2013, 08:53 AM
Do u just randomly write punches or do u have some sort of gameplan on how to construct your verse?

I'm assuming the former now SiK

SiK
07-28-2013, 08:56 AM
I start with nameplays. Try to get 1-2 of em and get my mind thinkin creative. Thats about it.

Just C
07-28-2013, 09:11 AM
No gameplan.

I just write when A) I have the time and B) When I'm in the mood to write for who I'm battling.

Normally it will just be an idea for a play that will pop up in my head, then the rest just starts to fall into place from that idea..

ill nik-A
07-28-2013, 09:12 AM
I gather concepts first

Without good concepts u ain't shit

Then I magically word them shits and then y'all druel

ill nik-A
07-28-2013, 09:13 AM
No gameplan.

I just write when A) I have the time and B) When I'm in the mood to write for who I'm battling.

Normally it will just be an idea for a play that will pop up in my head, then the rest just starts to fall into place from that idea..

U suck so no one gives a fuck

Just C
07-28-2013, 09:14 AM
U suck so no one gives a fuck

Sit down you silly old faggot

...the Nagger
07-28-2013, 09:15 AM
Do u read thru the verse and order it a certain way?

ill nik-A
07-28-2013, 09:16 AM
Sit down you silly old faggot

How does it feel to be horrible? Cuz I honestly do not know

Old jokes are just like ur lines, wack as fuck

ill nik-A
07-28-2013, 09:16 AM
Do u read thru the verse and order it a certain way?

String them together n make it all connect

Just C
07-28-2013, 09:17 AM
I think everyone does that tbh. Like a lot of people will put their best punches at the beginning and end of their verses.

If it's a track will shift and move lines so the verse has a cohesive progression, especially if it's a story piece.

Just C
07-28-2013, 09:18 AM
How does it feel to be horrible? Cuz I honestly do not know

Old jokes are just like ur lines, wack as fuck


It wasn't a joke, you're a silly old faggot. And I wouldn't know because I'm considerably better than you. suck it up.

ill nik-A
07-28-2013, 09:19 AM
Imagine someone on this site taking tips from just c

Hahahhahah

Picture that

Just C
07-28-2013, 09:20 AM
Imagine Nika ducking an audio battle from me then crawling back under his rock like the scary fag he is.....Nvm that actually happened.

ill nik-A
07-28-2013, 09:24 AM
Lol I did audio and performed when u were sucking ur moms titty... Grow up, u ain't going no where

U suck, rhymes are wack as fuck

...the Nagger
07-28-2013, 09:25 AM
I notice that a lot of ppl here suck at voting

It seems like certain ppl think certain ways when writing, which is cool

But if u absolutely don't fuck with a certain type of style a) u won't be looking for/noticing that style b)giving the credit due when u notice the style

When I say style I mean things like misdirection punches, vs like word association, etc

Back when writing was fun to do, u had discussions about writing. Maybe its just me, but we don't discuss writing on this board

I think more discussions would make votng better overall. Writing too, an appreciation of the writings being presented

...the Nagger
07-28-2013, 09:26 AM
Although u topical tree story tellers seem to still discuss writing

Just C
07-28-2013, 09:26 AM
Lol I did audio and performed when u were sucking ur moms titty... Grow up, u ain't going no where

U suck, rhymes are wack as fuck

U said that last time.....When you ducked.

ill nik-A
07-28-2013, 09:29 AM
U said that last time.....When you ducked.

U ducked my pink slip... Why would I record for someone who sucks at writing? Time waster lol

Ur writing sucks imagine ur songs

Grow outta that stage bro ure going nowhere in a hurry

ill nik-A
07-28-2013, 09:30 AM
I notice that a lot of ppl here suck at voting

It seems like certain ppl think certain ways when writing, which is cool

But if u absolutely don't fuck with a certain type of style a) u won't be looking for/noticing that style b)giving the credit due when u notice the style

When I say style I mean things like misdirection punches, vs like word association, etc

Back when writing was fun to do, u had discussions about writing. Maybe its just me, but we don't discuss writing on this board

I think more discussions would make votng better overall. Writing too, an appreciation of the writings being presented

Voting sucks cuz ppl don't understand the dynamics of punch lines

Has nothing to do with the way they construct their lines

Just C
07-28-2013, 09:33 AM
U ducked my pink slip... Why would I record for someone who sucks at writing? Time waster lol

Ur writing sucks imagine ur songs

Grow outta that stage bro ure going nowhere in a hurry

Cool story. You just this minute make that up? You're boring me. turn your attention elsewhere, duck.

ill nik-A
07-28-2013, 09:35 AM
U shopping labels dawg... Roflzzzz

Just C
07-28-2013, 09:35 AM
Zzzzzzzzz. we done yet?

...the Nagger
07-28-2013, 09:36 AM
Voting sucks cuz ppl don't understand the dynamics of punch lines

Has nothing to do with the way they construct their lines

Discussing writing in general and improving comprehension skills of the writings go hand and hand

ill nik-A
07-28-2013, 09:38 AM
Dude people don't even depend on set up lines... Some don't even get lines when the set up is in the first line aka the set up

Just C
07-28-2013, 09:40 AM
The worse thing is when you see people be overly critica about certain parts of your versel, then you read some of that persons work and see that it suffers from the same problems they were pointing out on your's, and then some. How can you confidently critic somebody elses and offer advice work when you can't even implement it into your own?

ill nik-A
07-28-2013, 09:43 AM
I hate when wack people judge my battles tbh

...the Nagger
07-28-2013, 09:44 AM
The worse thing is when you see people be overly critica about certain parts of your versel, then you read some of that persons work and see that it suffers from the same problems they were pointing out on your's, and then some. How can you confidently critic somebody elses and offer advice work when you can't even implement it into your own?

Tru

But like take me for example on battles where I kno I got it u can definitely tell when I just didn't give a fuck about particular lines lol

Its a motivational problem tho

...the Nagger
07-28-2013, 09:45 AM
I hate when wack people judge my battles tbh

U should explain to wack ppl why u think they suck

ill nik-A
07-28-2013, 09:48 AM
What for? So they can say I'm bitching or hating? I haven't spoken on votes against me in a long time not changing that

We at a point that it is what it is

Witty
07-28-2013, 09:49 AM
No I just write the first thing that comes into my head, don't have the patience or attention span to do anything else.

Doesn't matter tho, I'm still awesome.

...the Nagger
07-28-2013, 09:50 AM
Lol that's the prob tho

Maybe its in the way u approach things too

Sounding cocky or belittling will have that type of effect on ppl

ill nik-A
07-28-2013, 09:57 AM
I'm too dope... I have to look down otherwise shine my shoes nigga

Cakedout
07-28-2013, 12:06 PM
Well coming from a Hall of famer, I start with name flips & than string a rare concept in the bar. If you need tips, just pm me. I can help you move up to that heavy weight status.

SiK
07-28-2013, 12:09 PM
Dead

Inno
07-28-2013, 12:13 PM
The worse thing is when you see people be overly critica about certain parts of your versel, then you read some of that persons work and see that it suffers from the same problems they were pointing out on your's, and then some. How can you confidently critic somebody elses and offer advice work when you can't even implement it into your own?

This is how I think.

Im not a battler so how I gonna vote pn a battle?

Thats me being completely truthfull

The youngest boss.
07-28-2013, 12:19 PM
NC, where only concepts matter

SiK
07-28-2013, 12:23 PM
NC, where only concepts matter

Thats not true. Good concepts are ruined by horrible wording on the daily

Void
07-28-2013, 12:54 PM
Once you get good you don't really need to think because it just becomes your way of writing. Back when I battled heavily I was constantly looking for concepts or things to flip into punches. It's easier when you have a couple of personal things to attack and apply your concept search to. All battles and verses are their own, with different situations and nuances that can be applied. Some audiences prefer comedy. Some like being rugged. Wit is always needed, and turning some plays that no one has thought of.

I always decided what kind of style would work best before I started a verse. The first line is important, because it set the tone for me. If my first bar was amazing, then it gave me something to build off of. I don't like when writers write one bar, one bar and nothing really ties together. A good battle verse to me personally is one that hits hard with individual bars, but is better viewed as a whole. Most net battlers don't see things that way.

ill nik-A
07-28-2013, 01:23 PM
NC, where only concepts matter

So u know what concept means? Every punch line revolves around something

Too funny

God Of War
07-28-2013, 05:20 PM
...the Munster

eddie I usually dont prewrite or organize anything, I try to wait until the very end when its due or if I start writing I do it all in one go and then send it in. I found the more I look at a verse or try to change things the more I end up with a completely different verse lol which sometimes could be a good thing. But yeah I don't even read it when im down I count the bars to make sure its all there then drop and read it after the battles on

Dope girl
07-28-2013, 05:26 PM
I focus on more creativity.

Objective
07-28-2013, 08:56 PM
I do that shit with my topicals, I use punctuation which will most likely create a small pause which gives the reader more time to think about what's being said, or to help with the flow and/or stream of words. I also use different types of styles to help with the story, for example italics when shit is quoted, it's in another point of view or talking about the characters past or whatever. I often try to switch it up so it doesn't redundant and to keep my writtens fresh. I try not to be predictable.

I don't plan as much when I start writing, it comes more in place as I write the shit. That's when the puzzle start for me when I really get into my writing. Everything from arranging whatever characters I got, into thinking about his/her personality and even creating some sort of history/past and how I think that person would react in certain situations. I make small notes about new characters in my head to help with the story, and to make it believable for that specific person in my piece. I'm mostly doing this to practice character development as well tho' so I don't know if it even shows that well in my writtens.

But when I truly go into writing something, like the battle vs Nigma in the AOWL, I plan quite abit. Depends, sometimes it just works well as it is and I just need to polish the verse.

As far as battles go I just type a lot of bullshit, remove fillers and try to make the lines better. No real plans on punches etc. cuz I'm wack as fuck at that shit, but I try to make the verse seem somewhat thought out, that lines isn't overlapping eachother etc. But I don't really prepare or think about how I should write that specific verse, it's just insults, sarcasm and jokes for the most part anyways.

Chyeahhh!!!
07-29-2013, 12:10 AM
My shit is systematically sporatic. Best way I know how to describe it. Ill have like thirty percent of the verse based off a few concepts floating in my head or a few throw away shits that I hadnt got around to using that may apply if it fancys. The rest of the shit just comes when im making the post. Some shit I dont even plan but it happens after I go back and read the post after a few days and shit connects but I didnt plan it....like unconscious wordplay and shit lol. Shits kinda weird how I do that like I was trying to get rawn to notice something I did with the words that really wasnt intentional in our battle

Its far,fetched and I know this...you thinking can I approach this
Im advancing ahead of you far enough that ill be designing phone apps for the roaches

Approach
Apps for roaches

God Of War
07-29-2013, 12:53 AM
My shit is systematically sporatic. Best way I know how to describe it. Ill have like thirty percent of the verse based off a few concepts floating in my head or a few throw away shits that I hadnt got around to using that may apply if it fancys. The rest of the shit just comes when im making the post. Some shit I dont even plan but it happens after I go back and read the post after a few days and shit connects but I didnt plan it....like unconscious wordplay and shit lol. Shits kinda weird how I do that like I was trying to get rawn to notice something I did with the words that really wasnt intentional in our battle

Its far,fetched and I know this...you thinking can I approach this
Im advancing ahead of you far enough that ill be designing phone apps for the roaches

Approach
Apps for roaches


remember back int he day when cats would cypher in chats for like days n shit lol cats dont do that now

Chyeahhh!!!
07-29-2013, 09:26 AM
remember back int he day when cats would cypher in chats for like days n shit lol cats dont do that now

yuppp lol

Geno
07-29-2013, 12:19 PM
Died in here.

But ya.. most of my shit is spur of the moment. Battles topicals whatever. I usually don't plan unless its league shit. Then I try to come out different less I'm just swamped for time or some shit

Geno
07-29-2013, 12:20 PM
Tight freestylers though. God Of War