Dagel gets the lifetime ban.

[Certain]

Hey, Vulgar, do you recognize this verse (as posted by Johnny Soul, also known as Antihero and Dagel)?

http://rapbattles.com/forum/showthread.php?481876-Quarterfinals-DEV-Vs-Johnny-Soul-(Antihero)-Johnny-Soul-Wins-2-0


Hey, Frank, how about this one?

http://rapbattles.com/forum/showthread.php?482379-L-E-vs-Johnny-Soul


Hey, Orc, have you seen this?

http://rapbattles.com/forum/showthread.php?481254-Wild-Card-Round-Antihero-Vs-Brandon-Cee-Antihero-Wins-4-3


So, Split, is Dagel a good writer?

Dagel, you're not getting the immediate ban because I want you to see what an embarrassment you are to life itself.

But let's make sure sraL or timeless or someone else at RapBattles sees this first. (I don't have an account there and don't plan on registering any time soon.)


Edit: APPARENTLY RAPBATTLES' ILLUSTRIOUS MEMBERS DON'T KNOW HOW ANYTHING WORKS, SO HERE ARE THE LINKS TO THE VERSES DAGEL BIT:

Vulgar: http://netcees.co/showthread.php?t=5161
Frank: http://netcees.co/showthread.php?t=30093
Orc: http://netcees.co/showthread.php?t=6287

And in case he has the power to delete the evidence, here are screenshots:
http://imgur.com/nJsVRKy
http://imgur.com/PfA20eL
http://imgur.com/frb98Ez

[big baby]

vuglar i like that name its like vulgar and lars combined VUGLARS good job iidoyte certain

[Diode]

...

[big baby]

Hey, @Vulgar

[Certain]

I have no idea what you're talking about, BIG FUCKA BABY.

[big baby]

tbh he bites so wut he suk everybody no splti an idiyote too

BORN IDIYOTE DYE IDYOTE - split life story 4 word short story

[Split]

Wow. I'm shocked in a way that I shouldn't have been, I guess. I always thought he was an ok writer with anger problems that got shit on for his teenage years.

Turns out he's a no-talent having faggot. Cool.

[Split]

Ever notice how the people who let themselves get walked all over end up being the ones worth trampling?

[MKG]

I'm lost. Where did he bite it from

[MKG]

Double post

[Certain]

I'm lost. Where did he bite it from

Vulgar (http://netcees.co/showthread.php?t=5161), Frank (http://netcees.co/showthread.php?t=30093) and Orc (http://netcees.co/showthread.php?t=6287). What's hard to understand?

Also, who bites three different writers with entirely different styles in a three-week span? At least when Omen was doing it, he was using the same writer (who also didn't post on any forums).

[Diode]

hahahaha omen.

i wish dagel got omened.

[Vulgar]

lol at least he has good taste.

[Certain]

hahahaha omen.

i wish dagel got omened.

I was gone when Omen was exposed. Then I came back like six months later and was like, "Hey, good to see Vern and Corey and RIKO still around. Where's Omen these days?"

[Diode]

https://encyclopediadramatica.es/index.php?title=D._Omen&diff=next&oldid=1077

all omens must fail

[Certain]

Thinking of the RSTL's Omen (also Author NYSE and a bunch of other names).

[Diode]

Thinking of the RSTL's Omen (also Author NYSE and a bunch of other names).

oh i know, i'm saying anyone with that name associates themselves with dirt people

[Split]

Well, that's enough Netcees for the week, at least.

[Strikta]

Smh.

[Inno]

Posting this on rb right now.

[Ghost1]

Certain

Dont ban him until after the dust settles on this.

Potential tear soaked veggie pizza video blogs on deck....

[Certain]

Certain

Dont ban him until after the dust settles on this.

Potential tear soaked veggie pizza video blogs on deck....

That was my plan. I can't even IP ban anyone, so banning him just means he can create a new account.

[Blanco Bishop]

Certain just broke lesnered the fuck out of this dude

[Certain]

The best part was the responses were all like, "Wow, man, this is the best I've read from you."

But hey, Orc, Vulgar and Frank all get a little extra feedback on some old verses.

I really should have let him win their season championship with bitten verses, then exposed him. But hey, I welcome any RapBattles members who would prefer to face the elite-level writers who actually wrote the verses that beat them.

[MKG]

You shoulda waited for the finals

Then we he was at his happiest

Shit on him

[Orc]

He changed up my verse and added some forced shit. Also ruined the story with his awkward add ons. At least let ya boy get feed on 100 percent his own work ya know.

[dull boy]

Lol Certain all excited.

[namix]

hahahaha omen.

i wish dagel got omened.

Omen?? for real?! that motherfucker beat me in the champ match of the 128 man $1,000 RSTL summer tourney back in the day

Certain --- going to a waaay back convo we had, it was OMEN i was thinking of...i didnt know he was a biter either, he didnt talk much just got mad love @ RM forever it seemed


Was it like a one-time bite or was he chronic with it?

[Certain]

Omen?? for real?! that motherfucker beat me in the champ match of the 128 man $1,000 RSTL summer tourney back in the day

Certain --- going to a waaay back convo we had, it was OMEN i was thinking of...i didnt know he was a biter either, he didnt talk much just got mad love @ RM forever it seemed


Was it like a one-time bite or was he chronic with it?

Omen was a career biter. It seems what happened was he stumbled on some dude's collection of highly poetic rap lyrics (apparently the guy's archive had something like hundreds of choices), then started biting verses that somewhat fit topics week after week. People regularly pointed out his askew takes on topics, but the writing was so poetic that it was easy to just chalk it up to him being abstract.

He took over moderating duties basically as soon as anyone trusted him to so that he could find topics to match his verses. He did that for about two years and had probably the best record in the history of the RSTL before someone finally found him out. He also held multiple accounts in the league at various times and voted for himself.

At first, the question was whether he was simply recycling old verses. But quickly it became clear that he'd occasionally bitten other people's verses too, probably when he couldn't find a verse from his big archive that fit the topic. To my knowledge, the guy who actually wrote most of the verses was contacted and said he had no idea what the RSTL was.

Omen then proceeded to disappear and never be heard from again. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he was still around now, though.

The thing that pissed me off is when people thought myself and other veterans who were in The Elite with him knew about this. I had no idea, and I don't think anyone's record was more affected than mine. I had lost to Omen at least twice and tied him one other time in title matches. It later was revealed that he had voted for himself in a couple of those.

Lol Certain all excited.

True.

[Split]

Omen was a career biter. It seems what happened was he stumbled on some dude's collection of highly poetic rap lyrics (apparently the guy's archive had something like 100s of choices), then started biting verses that somewhat fit topics week after week. People regularly pointed out his askew takes on topics, but the writing was so poetic that it was easy to just chalk it up to him being abstract.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpqizvFPZr1qgp297.gif

[Vulgar]

He changed up my verse and added some forced shit. Also ruined the story with his awkward add ons. At least let ya boy get feed on 100 percent his own work ya know.

[big baby]

Witty Wonka im sry ur site suks bro

[dead man]

Lol

Coffins nailed

[Strikta]

Certain

Dont ban him until after the dust settles on this.

Potential tear soaked veggie pizza video blogs on deck....

Lol

We could only hope.

[Just C]

I noticed Johnny Soul exposed a biter in that tourney a month back.

[Sir Oswald Gonesberg]

D

[MKG]

Dagel whatever you do

don't stab your dad

[oats]

lol the funniest part to me was people saying Dagel was underperforming with Vulgar's verse. The topical scene over there took such a dramatic plunge.

I'm with Split though, embarrassingly enough. I thought he was a half-decent writer that was just a tool/kid with anger issues, never took him as a biter.

[oats]

The best part was the responses were all like, "Wow, man, this is the best I've read from you."

But hey, Orc, Vulgar and Frank all get a little extra feedback on some old verses.

I really should have let him win their season championship with bitten verses, then exposed him. But hey, I welcome any RapBattles members who would prefer to face the elite-level writers who actually wrote the verses that beat them.

as if any was needed, but in a way this is incontrovertible evidence of NC>RB topical scene, since he beat two of their top guys in Brandon Cee (who is legitimately a good writer) and DEV (who is solid mid-tier). I wish you did let it slide till the end though lol

[Persevere]

Ever notice how the people who let themselves get walked all over end up being the ones worth trampling?

[Ghost1]

Dagel?

[Certain]

Top five Dagel verses ever:

1. http://netcees.co/showthread.php?t=8679
2. http://netcees.co/showthread.php?t=59225
3. http://netcees.co/showthread.php?t=54498
4. http://netcees.co/showthread.php?t=25679
5. http://netcees.co/showthread.php?t=76874

[sral]

lol the funniest part to me was people saying Dagel was underperforming with Vulgar's verse. The topical scene over there took such a dramatic plunge.

I'm with Split though, embarrassingly enough. I thought he was a half-decent writer that was just a tool/kid with anger issues, never took him as a biter.

i dont think Dagel is a biter, he writes way too much

something obv caused him to do this. boredom? ppl at RB thinking NC was wack and him wanting to prove otherwise? him finally realising the tier difference between the two sites and this confirming it for him? we all had that realisation at one point.

the least we can do is give him the chance to explain himself

[sral]

Vulgar was a biter in a previous life, he is still allowed to compete. uh-oh, too. As well as countless other heads... Orc, Frank etc

Ironically three people Dagel supposedly 'bit' have also bit in the past.

Double standards.

[Atti]

i dont think Dagel is a biter, he writes way too much

i would agree with this…

but he's a kid who is on all the time and posts no longer than 5 minutes after you tag him in something. and we haven't heard from him on either side since all this has come up. smells like guilt

[oats]

sraL that's a good point. I do wish he would at least come forth and say something, though the pitchforks are already out so I doubt he will.

[sral]

i would agree with this…

but he's a kid who is on all the time and posts no longer than 5 minutes after you tag him in something. and we haven't heard from him on either side since all this has come up. smells like guilt

he'll be in ghost mode as his accounts are apparently banned, dont think he's IP banned though?

he'll see this and respond when he's seen we're giving the chance

i'm sure

[Wordz AhGod]

well damn, not sure if that faggot is banned or not atm.. let me go make sure, thanks.

[Atti]

he's still active on rb with no account or ip ban

GOW doesn't ban anyone and i think ILL's just waiting for it to air out a bit before he drops the ban hammer

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Thor-Hammer-Slam-to-Ground.gif

[Split]

Vulgar was a biter in a previous life, he is still allowed to compete. uh-oh, too. As well as countless other heads... Orc, Frank etc

Ironically three people Dagel supposedly 'bit' have also bit in the past.

Double standards.

fair point. but those people also all did some growing up, first.

[Certain]

Vulgar was a biter in a previous life, he is still allowed to compete. uh-oh, too. As well as countless other heads... Orc, Frank etc

Ironically three people Dagel supposedly 'bit' have also bit in the past.

Double standards.

Vulgar and Orc (and you) bit as teenagers just getting started. This is an adult who has been writing for almost a decade. There's no double-standard. And your statement that "I don't think Dagel is a biter" is ridiculous. There is proof that he in fact IS a biter right there in the OP.

No one thinks Dagel usually bites or anything like that. Hell, as a few people on RapBattles suggested, he may very well be doing this as some sort of clumsy act of defiance or boredom, knowing he'd get caught.

But he still bit. That makes him a biter. And he's been around way too long to be defended for it, like he didn't know better or something.

And when did Frank bite?

[Certain]

he'll be in ghost mode as his accounts are apparently banned, dont think he's IP banned though?

he'll see this and respond when he's seen we're giving the chance

i'm sure

He's not banned here. You're really eager to defend this dickhead.

[Wordz AhGod]

in my view, biting is biting.. regardless if you bit from a biter, you took the material that you thought would result in a win (which from what I saw in these battles, he did win) and put the bitch up. There are no technicalities to it really. Biters in my opinion take the account ban, make a new account and try again the right way. Shit isn't taken as seriously as it used to be but everyone brands you as a biter will never forget.

[Certain]

in my view, biting is biting.. regardless if you bit from a biter, you took the material that you thought would result in a win (which from what I saw in these battles, he did win) and put the bitch up. There are no technicalities to it really. Biters in my opinion take the account ban, make a new account and try again the right way. Shit isn't taken as seriously as it used to be but everyone brands you as a biter will never forget.

We're mostly adults now. It should be taken more seriously, not less.

In fact, let's stop calling it "biting" and start calling it "plagiarism."

[Atti]

he just got hit with the IP on our side Wordz.

biting should always be an IP ban. end of story.

[Certain]

he just got hit with the IP on our side Wordz.

biting should always be an IP ban. end of story.

The sad truth is that bans of all kinds are mostly worthless. Shaming is all we really have left.

[Atti]

i don't think he has the means of altering or rerouting his IP. so in this case it may be worth something. but i guess we'll see

[sral]

No one thinks Dagel usually bites or anything like that. Hell, as a few people on RapBattles suggested, he may very well be doing this as some sort of clumsy act of defiance or boredom, knowing he'd get caught.

It was me who suggested that.

And if you don't think he's a biter that "usually" does it then why are you pushing this so hard?

It's Dagel. Noone from either site cares about dude. Why are you going out of your way to make some kind of wave here for others to ride?

The three people he supposedly 'bit' are biters themselves, the irony is just funny to me is all.

I couldn't give two shits about Dagel or defending him, I just want to know why this has you more butthurt than the people he supposedly stole them from.

[sral]

And when did Frank bite?

He bit from Maya Angelou and this entire website knows it, apart from you it seems, but hey - that's your boy so I wouldn't expect you to make this same thread about him.

SMH. Double standards.

[Certain]

I care because plagiarism is plagiarism. All we have on these sites is what we write. This dickhead is stealing work and, along with it, the little integrity this hobby actually has.

I work in a field where what Dagel just did would end a 30-year career. He's been around too long for any shred of mercy.

[Certain]

He bit from Maya Angelou and this entire website knows it, apart from you it seems, but hey - that's your boy so I wouldn't expect you to make this same thread about him.

SMH. Double standards.

When?

[Split]

lol Frank has not caught any breaks. I tried to give him a season ban from AOWL when he got caught multi-accounting

I can't speak on anything that was before my time

[Blanco Bishop]

Biting is equivalent steroids in baseball.


It disrespected the game n everyone involved in it.

[Diode]

i don't think he has the means of altering or rerouting his IP. so in this case it may be worth something. but i guess we'll see

https://www.torproject.org/

cough.

[Atti]

https://www.torproject.org/

cough.

"means" is the nice way of saying "intelligence to get it done" in this case.

[Diode]

"means" is the nice way of saying "intelligence to get it done" in this case.

if dia can manage, anyone can.

[Letterman]

Dia is a computer nerd tho.

[Wordz AhGod]

really most dudes like dia just use proxys to slide past the ip bans. Thats why we just started handing out "biter of the month" accomplishments lmao. Shaiming is very much so alive.

[Letterman]

I'm saying maybe Dagel's account was hacked or someone guessed his password correctly and what we're seeing is the result of a long-game troll.

It's possible.

Dagel wrote WAY too much and invested a significant amount of his time into this hobby to be an out-and-out biter. We would have caught him before now, surely, if he wasn't writing any of his own material?

Why suddenly bite now after years of doing it?

It doesn't add up to me.

There must be some reasoning behind this happening now.

I'm not pointing fingers, I'm not saying he didn't bite, just that there's a cloud of suspition hanging over this whole scenario in my mind.

Is it funny to you how Netcees just so happened to come across this?

Against someone like Dagel, that neither board likes?

Only a month ago Dagel was touted as repping the site in a site battle vs NC's.

That's a huge swing of momentum from him repping RB against a rival board to suddenly biting from that exact board.

It reaks of a set-up IMHO.

Interesting point.

[Wordz AhGod]

I can't picture a guy being setup in such a way. I know if I had a battle going, and some how I went to go look and there was already a post with my name on it.. I would probably say something along the lines of, "I didn't write that, my account seems to have been hacked". He saw some shit he liked, he copied it.. and pasted it to get a few easy wins. Not my investigation needed on a copy/paste case man.

[oats]

all of these conspiracy theories seem unlikely to me. what seems more probable is that he really wanted to win the SS season, and he snaked some verses he thought would help him do it. He even tweaked them a bit, right? that strikes me as an effort to camouflage his actions. if it was because he wanted to prove a point or something, he probably would have popped up and said something about it. he's Persevere right?

people are making excuses for him. it's not that perplexing - he bit for the same reasons anyone bites. it would have made less sense if he wasn't in the playoffs against better writers, but it seems pretty straightforward to me.

[Certain]

Persevere is Gamble.

[big baby]

gone @ Lars saying suspition. dumb nigga

[big baby]

WINTER CHAMP> SUSPITION

[Atti]

I don't know about a "set up." if a guy as overly emotional as dagel was called a biter when he wasn't he would have been all over the boards in an extra dramatic way well before getting slapped with the IP ban.

his silence says it all for me. all your doing with these conspiracy theories is building him an excuse to play into when he inevitably comes back as an alias

[Certain]

Aero, welcome back. I'm glad to have you around for this quandary: Do I get credit for starting a 1,400-view thread on a message of which I'm not even a member?

http://rapbattles.com/forum/showthread.php?482440

[sral]

When?

Either NC's 1 or Art Of Writing.

Its common knowledge round these parts, whoadie.

[sral]

Aero, welcome back. I'm glad to have you around for this quandary: Do I get credit for starting a 1,400-view thread on a message of which I'm not even a member?

http://rapbattles.com/forum/showthread.php?482440

I knew you set this whole shit up and left Dagel to take the fall.

That's some next level ish, esp. with how unstable Dagel is known to be anyway.

This could be the end of him.

Wowzers.

[sral]

gone @ Lars saying suspition. dumb nigga

LMAO REMEMBER WHEN YOU HAD THAT 'SUSPITIOUS' BAR OF EMINEMS COME OUT YOUR PASTRY HOLE YOU BITING FAGGOT?

I DO.

[Split]

LMAO REMEMBER WHEN YOU HAD THAT 'SUSPITIOUS' BAR OF EMINEMS COME OUT YOUR PASTRY HOLE YOU BITING FAGGOT?

I DO.

that was the worst reach ever by ill nik-a/ GOW.

I knew you set this whole shit up and left Dagel to take the fall.

That's some next level ish, esp. with how unstable Dagel is known to be anyway.

This could be the end of him.

Wowzers.


negged

Certain no views for u

[fresh]

Enjoy!

http://rapbattles.com/forum/showthread.php?482528-The-truth&p=8611360#post8611360

[MKG]

You guys are idiots that isn't dagel that's me

[big baby]

sraL havent you bitten constantly before? and that was db with the eminem line. literally anything conceptual line i have here is usually meandered out and written or flipped in a battle in the following month. if you want the work lars i'll give it you, as well.

[fresh]

You guys are idiots that isn't dagel that's me

is that you in that pic?

[MKG]

Yeah

[fresh]

Yeah

You look like a child raping faggot. Kill yaself

[MKG]

You look like a child raping faggot. Kill yaself

Please don't start a roast of pictures cuz you'll lose

[fresh]

Please don't start a roast of pictures cuz you'll lose

Nothing tops that pedo pic you faggot lmaoooo

And why the band aid? Is this satirical or are you literally a piece of garbage?

[MKG]

http://i1374.photobucket.com/albums/ag403/NOFX_Surfer/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-05/69E5E101-8947-4FB1-816C-68D3438E494B_zps68z75d1b.jpg

Did you dislocate your shoulder after this you frail fuck

[MKG]

http://i59.tinypic.com/30sjy8y.jpg

[timeless]

Certain I don't fuck with RB. I attempted to revive the topical side of the site, had 32 signups for the season, from a previous 12, constant with mags every week put mad time in, and just cuz I don't "socialize" with these inet fools i got constant shit from who ever sucking each other dick that day calling me out about an "attitude problem". I'm only on these sites to write and promote it. My lack of activity here and there is gripped by my 60+ hours a week. fiancée etc. RB is worthless without the people from NC that get bored with a lack of writing opportunities so they may or may not(rarely) travel to RB to "get up". fuck that, Certain king ra Adonis sraL @deadman need to keep the tourneys and leagues up.

but yeah, fuck fagel and his newfound set of teeth.

[timeless]

Nothing tops that pedo pic you faggot lmaoooo

And why the band aid? Is this satirical or are you literally a piece of garbage?

LOL no matter what time of year, month, day, if I happen to check out RB, and I didn't know you were on NC, but anytime, you on some raging shit against someone. are you sure youre from Canada? but on the real, youd be the type of dude id get drunk with lmao fucking fresh. you holding down those front lines still on RB? you are prolly the angriest motherfucker ive ever met in my life, and I aint even meet you.

[fresh]

LOL no matter what time of year, month, day, if I happen to check out RB, and I didn't know you were on NC, but anytime, you on some raging shit against someone. are you sure youre from Canada? but on the real, youd be the type of dude id get drunk with lmao fucking fresh. you holding down those front lines still on RB? you are prolly the angriest motherfucker ive ever met in my life, and I aint even meet you.

lmao I've got that e-anger yo..

I'm not actually flipping tables n shit and punching monitors hahahah

[MKG]

And DQ'ing people you battle

[Fart]

bllllllat

[Hush]

lmao I've got that e-anger yo..

I'm not actually flipping tables n shit and punching monitors hahahah

Why r u here

[fresh]

And DQ'ing people you battle

I gave dude 3 day ext, then he got caught recycling.

Of course he got DQed, u fucking retarded?

[fresh]

Why r u here

I dunno why tbh

[sral]

sraL havent you bitten constantly before? and that was db with the eminem line. literally anything conceptual line i have here is usually meandered out and written or flipped in a battle in the following month. if you want the work lars i'll give it you, as well.

lmao i aint never bit shit

you mad bruh?

[big baby]

nah i just wanted sound tough as fuk lil bb sraL

[Split Eight]

up

[Frank]

Own up Dearg
Certain

Please ban him

[YDK]

love how one incident can be made to sound like it's an everyday thing. smh.
Dearg

[Fart]

Trail of tears itt Dearg

[Sir Oswald Gonesberg]

[

[Ghost1]

Lol I've awaited the re emergence of Swansberg

So far so good lol.

[Ghost1]

Also, yes.

I'd be obliged to showing dagel the door if he is unable to locate it.

[Witty]

Lol I've awaited the re emergence of Swansberg

So far so good lol.

PM me who it is again plz cuz i think i know but it doesn't seem right.

[Dope girl]

I'mma miss him

[Witty]

lol I knew it.. Sir Oswald Gonesberg I love you and am also slightly afraid of you.

[Kill Spree]

Dude registered a new acct on RB... His name is Sloan. What a faggot

[Dearg]

Who's Sloan?

[Ghost1]

Also, yes.

I'd be obliged to showing dagel the door if he is unable to locate it.

[Dearg]

I'm just here to write man. I'm an active battler in the Topical league. I haven't done anything wrong. Adonis sraL Witty for proof.

[Ghost1]

Then stay in there.

None of them will save u in here.

Stay the fuck out of disc.

[Frank]

STFU & GET WHATS COMING TO U Bags

[Frank]

DEARG IS MY BITCH, NOT YOURS