Scotch bros.

[Diode]

Anyone else livid about Macallan's decision to nix all age statement whiskies besides 18 in favor of their new "1824" line that only differentiates by color? I'm more than halfway through my Mac 15 Fine Oak and going to be super depressed when my only options are sherry cask aged whiskys with no guidance on age whatsoever.

Marketing is a bitch.

Mac 12 got the axe too. That's my daily!

Fuckers.

[Ghost1]

Lol. I have never had emotions that you have had.

[PancakeBrah]

I'm drinking Jack Daniels straight from the bottle?

[Ghost1]

My nigga.

[Diode]

I'm drinking Jack Daniels straight from the bottle?

one day you will be old.

and then you will take an arrow to the knee.

[CopyPat]

eh

[Diode]

eh

crown royal on display like a true canadian

shameful

bar currently houses

laphroaig 10
mac 12 (my go-to daily highland)
mac 15
bowmore legend (go-to daily islay due to price/taste ratio)
balvenie 15 single barrel
johnnie blue (got it as a gift - still not bad for a blend)
crown royal reserve (also a gift, not a fan)

prior recently departed entries

glenlivet 12
glenfiddich 15

and a very special irish.. midleton very rare. you have not had irish until you've had that delicious SOB.

[CopyPat]

yo send me that royal reserve since u don't like it

[Diode]

yo send me that royal reserve since u don't like it

lol if it didnt have to go international i would

have you seen the ridiculous purple velvet bag this comes in

oh, since you're canadian, this is the "premium" reserve up there. the canadian reserve is a lower tier.

[CopyPat]

lmao. i have the purple bag hanging on display aswell.. aaahahaha

keeps it gully

[PancakeBrah]

I live in America and am not rich, so you will now send me the aforementioned bottle.

Thank you kindly.

[CopyPat]

fine, he can have it. but i get partial credit


go on aim el cake

[Diode]

I live in America and am not rich, so you will now send me the aforementioned bottle.

Thank you kindly.

can you receive liquor in WI? or wherever you live now? a lot of states are dicks about that, especially opened bottles.

[uh-oh]

i drink booze sometimes

[PancakeBrah]

can you receive liquor in WI? or wherever you live now? a lot of states are dicks about that, especially opened bottles.

That's a good question. I didn't even know that was a thing.

The idea of sending liquor away is foreign to me.

North Dakota Crew.

[Diode]

That's a good question. I didn't even know that was a thing.

The idea of sending liquor away is foreign to me.

North Dakota Crew.

"Therefore, when direct shipping alcohol to North Dakota, ... N.D.C.C. section 5-01-16.3 penalties apply for unlicensed persons shipping alcohol"

answer: illegal.

[PancakeBrah]

I'm not even sure if you had to Google that at this point.

[Diode]

I'm not even sure if you had to Google that at this point.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ND+liquor+mail&oq=ND+liquor+mail&aqs=chrome..69i57.2574j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=shipping+liquor+to+north+dakota+person+to+person

took a couple tries, kept getting wholesaler laws.

[PancakeBrah]

Good. It would be a bit much if you knew North Dakota codes by heart.

[Pent uP]

crown royal on display like a true canadian

shameful

bar currently houses

laphroaig 10
mac 12 (my go-to daily highland)
mac 15
bowmore legend (go-to daily islay due to price/taste ratio)
balvenie 15 single barrel
johnnie blue (got it as a gift - still not bad for a blend)
crown royal reserve (also a gift, not a fan)

prior recently departed entries

glenlivet 12
glenfiddich 15

and a very special irish.. midleton very rare. you have not had irish until you've had that delicious SOB.

Laph is way too peaty for me.

I'd rather glenlivet 12 as a daily (just me, not a huge macallen fan).
How is the balvenie 15? Balvenie 12 is my new favorite (affordable) 12.

[Diode]

Laph is way too peaty for me.

I'd rather glenlivet 12 as a daily (just me, not a huge macallen fan).
How is the balvenie 15? Balvenie 12 is my new favorite (affordable) 12.

i love some peat but not daily. laph is god tier as is lagavulin. bowmore is good for a daily peat monster and like i said.. supper affordable.

the balvenie 15 is fan-fucking-tastic. i try not to sneak into it too often but probably will start lest my mac stores get low since they can't be replaced.

[big baby]

i like Machiavelli rest in peace tupac west side till i die (15)

(affordable)

[Split]

what in the fuck. these prices are retarded. do you not get stupid drunk off this stuff? do you guys pay $80 a bottle to approach 'buzzed' and to taste glorified carpet cleaner?

[uh-oh]

diode has that amount of money white people get where they dont know what to do with it so they buy overpriced booze and pretend its smooth and life size superman cardboard cutouts

[sral]

crown royal on display like a true canadian

shameful

bar currently houses

laphroaig 10
mac 12 (my go-to daily highland)
mac 15
bowmore legend (go-to daily islay due to price/taste ratio)
balvenie 15 single barrel
johnnie blue (got it as a gift - still not bad for a blend)
crown royal reserve (also a gift, not a fan)

prior recently departed entries

glenlivet 12
glenfiddich 15

and a very special irish.. midleton very rare. you have not had irish until you've had that delicious SOB.

not fucked with that canadian shit, but Powers irish whiskey (15) is my thing. Hard/often expensive to come by here in England but Orc and Witty Wonka will know about that

got a couple bottles of Grants/Glenfidditch about 3/4s and 1/2 full at home in the drinks cabinet

dark rums more my thing though

i only really have whiskey if friends are coming back to ours after a night out

[Witty]

not fucked with that canadian shit, but Powers irish whiskey (15) is my thing. Hard/often expensive to come by here in England but Orc and Witty Wonka will know about that

got a couple bottles of Grants/Glenfidditch about 3/4s and 1/2 full at home in the drinks cabinet

dark rums more my thing though

i only really have whiskey if friends are coming back to ours after a night out

Can confirm Powers is legit, I might have a couple tonight now that you've mentioned it.

THANKS LARS.

[Diode]

what in the fuck. these prices are retarded. do you not get stupid drunk off this stuff? do you guys pay $80 a bottle to approach 'buzzed' and to taste glorified carpet cleaner?

2 fingers and you'll be at that perfect place between buzzed and drunk. scotch is generally 80-90 proof, bud. and if you think it tastes like carpet cleaner you are confusing scotch with vodka.

[Diode]

diode has that amount of money white people get where they dont know what to do with it so they buy overpriced booze and pretend its smooth and life size superman cardboard cutouts

two of my dailies listed here are ~40/bottle. the expensive ones get consumed on special occasions and usually last months if not more. stop.

[Split]

2 fingers and you'll be at that perfect place between buzzed and drunk. scotch is generally 80-90 proof, bud. and if you think it tastes like carpet cleaner you are confusing scotch with vodka.

well I went to NH on a liquor run and forwent my usual añejo for a 10 year Glensomething

Ice or no ice

[Diode]

well I went to NH on a liquor run and forwent my usual añejo for a 10 year Glensomething

Ice or no ice

no ice ever.

a drop of (preferrably distilled) water if you prefer to open it up a little. you'll probably want to with a 10yr.

[Split]

Oh nvm it's a 12. But word. I'll try it

EDIT: this shit doesn't burn at all. what's good am I drinking it wrong?

[Certain]

no ice ever.

a drop of (preferrably distilled) water if you prefer to open it up a little. you'll probably want to with a 10yr.

I use a splash of water in any bourbon or Scotch, particularly those with higher proofs.

Ice should only be touched if you're talking a sub-Makers Mark bourbon or a blended Scotch. And if you're drinking blended Scotch, you might as well just go with Irish whiskey.

[Witty]

How about just drink whatever gets you the most fucked up in the shortest possible time?

Dudes talking about taste and shit wtf who drinks alcohol for the taste?

[Diode]

How about just drink whatever gets you the most fucked up in the shortest possible time?

Dudes talking about taste and shit wtf who drinks alcohol for the taste?

i drink wine for taste
i drink scotch for taste
i drink beer for taste

if i'm just out to get hammered that's another thing altogether. some people enjoy the taste of alcohol-focused beverages. crazy, right?

[PancakeBrah]

Gotta go with witty on this one.

'This is a fine year, indeed! A hint of oak and marmalade!'

Brb chugging whiskey and talking shit to people online because that's how god intended it

[Split]

I can see the pluses and minuses of both tbh. I don't always drink to get hammered

[Diode]

you'll grow up one day, cake.

or won't.

don't rush to it for sure.

[Witty]

Come around my parts diode....I don't know a single person who drinks anything for the taste...adult or otherwise.

My dad drinks raw vodka every day and he hates vodka lol

[Witty]

I can see the pluses and minuses of both tbh. I don't always drink to get hammered

Y?

I don't understand.

[NYCSPITZ]

Diode how do you feel about the upcoming season? Hayes has the only legit chance of cracking NYR for 40+ games out of the newbies, he's better than JT Miller. All the other dudes like nig nog duclair, they're 2-3 yrs out IMO. Hayes is a 1st rounder and has a man body. Haggerty sniped one at Traverse City vs Dallas or Carolina I think but he's undrafted out of college and when has one of those worked for NYR even when said college player WAS drafted? Amonte? Kreider maybe? Only hayes will make it gawd.

BTW for most men I would assume it's Jack Daniels all day, with some disgusting shit on hand for females like smirnoff and alize.

[Diode]

Come around my parts diode....I don't know a single person who drinks anything for the taste...adult or otherwise.

My dad drinks raw vodka every day and he hates vodka lol

you're irish. your only needs in this world are to get fighting drunk, procreate, find a way to consume awful irish cuisine, and write long, unintelligible literary novels that make me suicidal.

[Diode]

Diode how do you feel about the upcoming season? Hayes has the only legit chance of cracking NYR for 40+ games out of the newbies, he's better than JT Miller. All the other dudes like nig nog duclair, they're 2-3 yrs out IMO. Hayes is a 1st rounder and has a man body. Haggerty sniped one at Traverse City vs Dallas or Carolina I think but he's undrafted out of college and when has one of those worked for NYR even when said college player WAS drafted? Amonte? Kreider maybe? Only hayes will make it gawd.

BTW for most men I would assume it's Jack Daniels all day, with some disgusting shit on hand for females like smirnoff and alize.

i pretty much agree with all of this. i think there's been some pretty good improvement on our lack of depth on defense. i'm waiting to see how the loss of boyle plays out - useless as a checker but had grit and grinded out some good stuff like prust. i hate losing guys with heart, at least we dumped the brad richards contract. rick nash better get his shit together or he'll get the redden treatment for sure.

kreids is coming along wonderfully, imo. that speed is so deadly.

worried about king henry starting to decline.

what do you think about mcdonagh as captain? i love the kid but he ain't exactly the most vocal motherfucker around.. top 3 2-way defender though for sure.

[Witty]

you're irish. your only needs in this world are to get fighting drunk, procreate, find a way to consume awful irish cuisine, and write long, unintelligible literary novels that make me suicidal.

And I plan to fulfill all those needs.

<3

[NYCSPITZ]

Boyle was effective for sure, I liked prust better b/c of that godly viking beard and also b/c he didn't get knocked down as much as boyle. You can't really blame him he's like an nba player in the NHL but jesus did boyle fall a lot. Richards needed to go for cap space. Agree on that, he's still a good #2C at 20-30-50 production capability (which he will probably just about maintain playing on an offensively charged team like CHI even with a slight decline).

Krieder is legit, great weapon for years to come. His ceiling is about 30-30-60. Career year maybe can see something like 38-27-65 but I doubt it. Vision not good enough for more assists but if he learns to get more pucks through with his shot he'll get quite a few rebound assists. His shot and speed are great assets and I'm really high on him.

Henrik Is Godly, most consistent goalie of our era. Yeah he's early 30's but Brodeur is fat and he was good into his late 30's. With Hank's mental strength and athleticism I can see him staying consistent, with a slight decline maybe .010 save % for the next 5 yrs, with 1 or 2 outlier years where he wins or is a contender for the Vezina. Basically NYR's window to win the cup is that time period, or however long Hank stands up in real life.

McDonagh? He's a beast, I can see him winning a Norris in the future. I agree that he's not vocal but the NHL tends to like the Yzerman/Gretzky type of more a quietly assertive, prove it on the ice type of leadership. He will get the C. I'd personally give it to MSL because of his career success. Only certified future HOFer on the team currently in addition to Lundqvist. Look at the top 30 scoring last year in the NHL. All 1st rounders with the exception of MSL and Kuntiz. Kunitz is b/c of crosby. MSL created even without Stamkos and has an Art Ross. The guy is tiny and undrafted, it takes an uncommon mentality to get to the NHL and thrive with those factors, let alone at his age. Without the slump after the NYR trade, he's a PPG player last year, and there were less than 15 of those league wide. I understand he's out of the league soon but give him the C imo. Developing leadership skills, all that, that's bullshit tbh. MSL should be the leader.

[Diode]

i dunno man, i see your point, but we didn't give one to gretzky after mess left.. hard to justify MSL on loan for it.

:|

[NYCSPITZ]

fuck the status quo that's why u gotta switch the shit UP dawg and try some new chemistry...

either way mac gets the C. and I see a 2nd round loss incoming this year TBH unless we trade for a legit #1C at the deadline we will not win the cup. Sather prob will tho like 60/40 chance he will

[NYCSPITZ]

if sather gets us a #1C at the deadline we have like a 30/70 shot at the cup IMO with last year's run and our current team

GOOD ODDS

[Diode]

if sather gets us a #1C at the deadline we have like a 30/70 shot at the cup IMO with last year's run and our current team

GOOD ODDS

yeah but you know how GREAT SLATS HAS BEEN AT GETTING #1CS AMIRITE

fuckin slats

at least he's been better lately

will still never forgive for gomez, redden, etc.

[NYCSPITZ]

lmao fucking gomez......redden has a couple good yrs in ottawa then pay him like he's some genius lawyer or NASA rocket scientist??? Jesus...co-sign how horrible that was.

We need someone like Thornton TBH. SJ stripped him of the C, think he'd consider coming to NYR at the deadline. I mean SJ just chokes every year in the playoffs after being regular season beasts. Thornton to NYR for.............

[Diode]

lmao fucking gomez......redden has a couple good yrs in ottawa then pay him like he's some genius lawyer or NASA rocket scientist??? Jesus...co-sign how horrible that was.

We need someone like Thornton TBH. SJ stripped him of the C, think he'd consider coming to NYR at the deadline. I mean SJ just chokes every year in the playoffs after being regular season beasts. Thornton to NYR for.............

see thats the other problem. all of our good players are either too young, cheap, and valuable.. or too fucking expensive for anyone to deal with. we're out of grinders and upside guys. though if SOMEONE GOD WOULD PLEASE TAKE DAN GIRARDI OFF OUR HANDS I WOULDN'T MIND.

[PancakeBrah]

you'll grow up one day, cake.

or won't.

don't rush to it for sure.

Its not a matter of growingvup. Its a preference. But you love condescension whenever possible so great post bud

[Certain]

I get drunk on gin drinks or shots of tequila or Canadian whisky.

I drink Scotch, bourbon and beer for the taste but sometimes drink enough of those to get drunk.

[Diode]

Its not a matter of growingvup. Its a preference. But you love condescension whenever possible so great post bud

if you cannot possible enjoy things subtly and can only do so at one extreme or the other, you are a child.

condescension deserved.

dick (no baron).

[Diode]

I get drunk on gin drinks or shots of tequila or Canadian whisky.

I drink Scotch, bourbon and beer for the taste but sometimes drink enough of those to get drunk.

^^ this.

[Certain]

You know when you go to a barbecue and have a beer with your burger? That's drinking for taste. You don't have to be a sommelier to drink for taste.

[Witty]

if you cannot possible enjoy things subtly and can only do so at one extreme or the other, you are a child.

condescension deserved.

dick (no baron).

He didn't say he can't enjoy things subtly...he said he doesn't do so with alcoholic beverages.

Something created with the purpose of making ppl drunk.

That's why there's alcohol in it.

Also, I should point out that there are alcoholics I would name in my list of the realest men I know...people who don't have a childish bone in their body (no tyson), it's silly to categorize people like that just because they don't do things how you do.

Anyway, bout to go drinking, have a good night bros.

[Witty]

You know when you go to a barbecue and have a beer with your burger? That's drinking for taste. You don't have to be a sommelier to drink for taste.

I don't do that.

Literally don't drink unless I'm getting drunk, that's how it always has been.

Eating time is for eating...drinking time is for drinking.

[NYCSPITZ]

see thats the other problem. all of our good players are either too young, cheap, and valuable.. or too fucking expensive for anyone to deal with. we're out of grinders and upside guys. though if SOMEONE GOD WOULD PLEASE TAKE DAN GIRARDI OFF OUR HANDS I WOULDN'T MIND.

Girardi is solid. Think he'll bounce back with a better playoffs. I'd give Staal+ for a Thornton Rental. Staal, Miller, 2nd for Thornton and Braun. I'm not high on Miller. If Thornton is solid throughout and Lundqvist is godly again, that's probably like 60% a cup right there. Obvi weakens our D which is our big strength aside from Hank but it's worth the cup shot IMO. Unless there's something more sustainable that'll allow us to compete for a longer window. Think We can move Thornton and find cap space to replace Stall after the playoffs tho

[Diode]

Girardi is solid. Think he'll bounce back with a better playoffs. I'd give Staal+ for a Thornton Rental. Staal, Miller, 2nd for Thornton and Braun. If Thornton is solid throughout and Lundqvist is godly again, that's probably like 60% a cup right there. Obvi weakens our D which is our big strength aside from Hank but it's worth the cup shot IMO. Unless there's something more sustainable that'll allow us to compete for a longer window. Think We can move Thornton and find cap space to replace Stall after the playoffs tho

i agree that staal is dropping like a brick as far as skill goes and would gladly take that trade. doubt SJ would though. also it would tie up $$ we don't have.. it would set up an "all-in" season with MSL and Thornton expiring. if we had better depth from the rookies i could see it, but a pretty good risk if the pressure gets to everyone + thornton doesn't live up to expectations.. i mean, the last rental that did during the regular season was what.. drury? jagr?

[PancakeBrah]

Me and Witty are one ITT

Was going to reply to both diode and certain with the same responses.

Well done ol fox.

[Witty]

Me and Witty are one ITT

Was going to reply to both diode and certain with the same responses.

Well done ol fox.

Thank you sir.

I am dedicating my first whiskey of the night to you.

[NYCSPITZ]

i agree that staal is dropping like a brick as far as skill goes and would gladly take that trade. doubt SJ would though. also it would tie up $$ we don't have.. it would set up an "all-in" season with MSL and Thornton expiring. if we had better depth from the rookies i could see it, but a pretty good risk if the pressure gets to everyone + thornton doesn't live up to expectations.. i mean, the last rental that did during the regular season was what.. drury? jagr?

jagr is a beast tho

[NYCSPITZ]

i agree that staal is dropping like a brick as far as skill goes and would gladly take that trade. doubt SJ would though. also it would tie up $$ we don't have.. it would set up an "all-in" season with MSL and Thornton expiring. if we had better depth from the rookies i could see it, but a pretty good risk if the pressure gets to everyone + thornton doesn't live up to expectations.. i mean, the last rental that did during the regular season was what.. drury? jagr?

think about it tho...

nash will bounce back and score more next playoffs in all likelyhood, his consistency is solid just had a horrible playoffs...

secondary scoring will be similar, MSL and thornton (theoretically) will be solid and somebody always explodes one playoff that you don't expect...

with thornton we got this

[uh-oh]

word to witty and cake

"oh im gonna have a beer with this slice of pizza, not because i want the effects of an alcohol beverage, i just want the taste of said alcohol beverage to mingle with the pizza and create a nice pallEt STFU"

drink a coca cola for taste. drink some hawaiian punch. drink something flavored to taste good

drink a beer to get drunk

thats probably why i dont get beer snobs/nerds. oh this microbrew from the landolakes brewing corporation has eight times the hops for a refreshing smooth STFU

IT TASTES LIKE A SHITTY BEER.

drink a budweiser like a god damn american. fast. so you can drink another

CLOSE THREAD

[Diode]

wt gonna wt

[Just C]

You know, during all my years of boozing I've never actually drank scotch.

[uh-oh]

this nigga diode be twirling his wine in wineglasses and sniffing it

i pour it out of boxes into NON disposable plastic cups

like a MAN

[Just C]

one day you will be old.

and then you will take an arrow to the knee.

http://cdn2.gamefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/skyrim-arrow-to-the-knee.jpg

[Certain]

Drinking a beer with a slice of pizza is the single most American thing there is.

[uh-oh]

no doubt but there is context involved

hey im drunk from drinking beers all day and im too lazy to cook, lets get a pepperonit pizza and eat it while we continue to get drunk

vs.

this sam adams midnight ultra orange juice ale goes deliciously with a slice of hawaiian pizza

[Split]

imo alcohol tastes like fucking liquid putrid asshole UNTIL you start getting belligerently drunk off of it

the whole thing is kinda like hitting puberty and suddenly wanting to fuck every girls pussy off. sure, some of those girls are fucking ratchet af. The Ruble, Old Crow, Keystone Ice's of sluts. But all you know is you wanna be all over them and you cant control yourself


As you get older, you start to enjoy better varieties. A finely aged brunette bourbon. Luscious blonde rums in cocktail dresses and glassy shoes.

And you don't have to bury your fucking face in them to appreciate them, all you need is a little tease. The wanting/ anticipation is the real flavor, the unsaid desire to drink them in until you cant fucking walk

And yo both ways are dope as fuck. Everyone ITT is an idiot but me.

[MKG]

Agreed, when I drink alcohol the first couple shots

Are gross. After that I don't even care anymore

And knock me down

[Pent uP]

no ice ever.

a drop of (preferrably distilled) water if you prefer to open it up a little. you'll probably want to with a 10yr.

my cousin told me about doing that last weekend. Blown away.

two fingers doesnt get me buzzed though. Fours good though.

[Just C]

As you get older, you start to enjoy better varieties. A finely aged brunette bourbon. Luscious blonde rums in cocktail dresses and glassy shoes.

And you don't have to bury your fucking face in them to appreciate them, all you need is a little tease. The wanting/ anticipation is the real flavor, the unsaid desire to drink them in until you cant fucking walk




Beautiful, You should write for Millls and Boon. You'd have to tone down the cursing a bit though.

[Split]

The publisher has been criticised for books that are considered low-brow and formulaic, although this has also been cited as one of the reasons for their success. Feminists have pilloried Mills & Boon novels as misogynistic rape fantasies, even as hate speech, and condemned novels as responsible for poor sexual health and failed relationships among their readers.
Modern Mills & Boon novels, over one hundred of which are released each month, cover a wide range of possible romantic sub-genres, varying in explicitness, setting and style, although retaining a comforting familiarity that meets reader expectations.


I basically already write for them

[Diode]

my cousin told me about doing that last weekend. Blown away.

two fingers doesnt get me buzzed though. Fours good though.

aye, depends on the strength.

[Inno]

word to witty and cake

"oh im gonna have a beer with this slice of pizza, not because i want the effects of an alcohol beverage, i just want the taste of said alcohol beverage to mingle with the pizza and create a nice pallEt STFU"

drink a coca cola for taste. drink some hawaiian punch. drink something flavored to taste good

drink a beer to get drunk

thats probably why i dont get beer snobs/nerds. oh this microbrew from the landolakes brewing corporation has eight times the hops for a refreshing smooth STFU

IT TASTES LIKE A SHITTY BEER.

drink a budweiser like a god damn american. fast. so you can drink another

CLOSE THREAD


this shit killed me.

that hops line was KILLER tho.

but im a beer nerd. iono i like the regular bum water like any god fearing american does. shit i got a 4 pack NATTY ICE in te frig right now.

but i also like mircobrews aswell. like a nice pomegranate infused cherry flavored doulbe distilled type of shit.

[kannon]

http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpa1/t51.2885-15/927998_335281263294032_308394830_n.jpg

fux with me


As for this:
no ice ever.

a drop of (preferrably distilled) water if you prefer to open it up a little. you'll probably want to with a 10yr.
Do you ever use stones? I usually drop a couple rocks in my glass cause I prefer the shit cold, but I was looking into getting some stones to prevent it from getting watered down.

[Certain]

With high-quality Scotch, coldness masks the flavor.

[kannon]

yeah, I guess. I've just always been weird about drinking room temperature liquids. I feel like all drinkable things should be cold.

[PancakeBrah]

uh-oh is on point. ether.

i'm not saying i don't understand diode and certain's perspective. they're a different type of drinker than me/witty/uh oh. im sure they drink to get drunk sometimes, too. but i, and probably witty/uh oh, compartmentalize alcohol. it's not a matter of maturity/intellect, which a "cultured' drinker, or one purporting to be one, would say. it's a matter of objective. if i drink one or two beers with a meal, my immediate, physical, response is to order a bottle of jack and complete the job. my mind doesn't factor in 'taste'. i've had "good" whiskey. it tasted better, i guess. but to me it was just a more expensive way to meet an end. maybe this is an alcoholic tendency. probably. on the few occasions I've stopped at 1 or 3 beers/drinks i feel like i'm in limbo. almost ashamed. like, 'dan; either drink or don't'. so it's a mindset thing. and since this particular mindset closely mimics the initial, high school, mentality of drinking it's looked down upon. but really, at a certain age, it's just a way of viewing drinking. you're confusing differentiation for evolution, which is pervasive. i understand that there are tiers of alcohol, and that there are obviously "better" tasting choices to try. but my mind doesn't think of alcohol that way so fuck your opinion.