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Old 04-14-2023, 06:57 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by House of Leaves View Post
-Exact numbers vary, but most scientific zoological studies reveal that UP to 10%,,, probably more like 5-7% of the "more advanced" (especially) mammals ,,,in Nature exhibit homosexual tendencies/activities,IF NOT Lifestyles!

-So when people question a gay person Why? Why did you choose. You have to consider one of a couple things:
1- The biological statistic referenced above^
2- If said critic is Religious, the obvious question becomes:
a- If God is perfect, &created Man in his image, why would he "mess up" with the "homo mistake"?
b- Why would he punish activity he denounces as sin?, after creating said sentient sexual beings? with such biological inclinations. For you see, Kung,
...[for that matter, if u want 2start a new athiest vs. religions thread then we could also get into why the Churches themselves don't see a flaw with their Creator if they despise homos&/or their lives that much. At LEAST with their "flawless" Holy Book they must find some flaws, if not the creator themselves.]
3 - Back to the question in a secular light, if we shall:
Who would ever "choose" to be gay? One day, in their teens or late childhood just..."Yep. I'd love to be a "minority". Despised by Monotheisms and Conservative society. Few less rights and representation under the law (at least until the last 8+years of major change; [marriage, etc.])...I'd love my family to doubt me and my life choices (unless they were extremely loving and trusting). I want higher chance of mental health probs, and identity issues. I want to fuck my own love live/future over (&possibly a partner's) by lying to myself because it'd be easier to hide in society.

But I digress, Kung. ^Nother day 'nother dollar, as my 12th grade AP English teacher used to "***kle"...

1935 letter

In 1935, Freud wrote to a mother who had asked him to treat her son's homosexuality, a letter that would later become famous:[6]

I gather from your letter that your son is a homosexual. I am most impressed by the fact that you do not mention this term yourself in your information about him. May I question you why you avoid it? Homosexuality is assuredly no advantage, but it is nothing to be ashamed of, no vice, no degradation; it cannot be classified as an illness; we consider it to be a variation of the sexual function, produced by a certain arrest of sexual development. Many highly respectable individuals of ancient and modern times have been homosexuals, several of the greatest men among them. (Plato, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, etc). It is a great injustice to persecute homosexuality as a crime –and cruelty, too. If you do not believe me, read the books of Havelock Ellis.

By asking me if I can help [your son], you mean, I suppose, if I can abolish homosexuality and make normal heterosexuality take its place. The answer is, in a general way we cannot promise to achieve it. In a certain number of cases we succeed in developing the blighted germs of heterosexual tendencies, which are present in every homosexual; in the majority of cases it is no more possible. It is a question of the quality and the age of the individual. The result of treatment cannot be predicted.

What analysis can do for your son runs in a different line. If he is unhappy, neurotic, torn by conflicts, inhibited in his social life, analysis may bring him harmony, peace of mind, full efficiency, whether he remains homosexual or gets changed.[14][15]
-Wikipedia
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Your logic is flawed by bringing up Freud quotes from 1935. As the kids would sat 'that line is played'. I could write a 20 line verse as a homo who isnt one but portrays one as a joke and refute your.claims in a rhyming fashion.
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