The Creationist view of the Universe

[Malachi]

Originally Posted by Tom Sparks

Earth is approx. 1.2 billion years old

The universe is approx. 3 billion years old

They say life on earth will no longer exist in 3 billion years cause the sun is constantly expanding and earth will pretty much be the next venus

nvm

[Plot]

Imma Pastafarian and follow the belief that the universe was created by The Flying Spaghetti Monster. Pirates Bitch!

http://www.venganza.org/

[Mike Wrecka]

Originally Posted by Plot

Imma Pastafarian and follow the belief that the universe was created by The Flying Spaghetti Monster. Pirates Bitch!

http://www.venganza.org/

holy shit this is a real thing. funny stuff

[Plot]

Just because you think its funny and you laugh at his divine noodlyness dosent make it not true Mike, the universe was created in this humor to test your faith.

[Diode]

Originally Posted by Plot

Imma Pastafarian and follow the belief that the universe was created by The Flying Spaghetti Monster. Pirates Bitch!

http://www.venganza.org/

i have also been touched by His Noodly Appendage

though on the advice of george carlin, i pray to joe pesci.

[detour]

Originally Posted by Answer

Einstein was not an Atheist, nor did he follow any religion. He was Agnostic. He never said there *has* to be some kind of intelligence coordinating the universe, he stated that he had enough humility to admit that physics cannot prove whether or not there is a God. Quantum mechanics, Atomic Physics, and string theory weren't even fully DEVELOPED when Einstein was around. Yes, he was a smart guy. But a lot of things have been discovered since the 1900's, and these fields are STILL not fully developed.

And humility is something that neither the fervent Atheists OR the incompetent theists have.

Fact: Nobody can PROVE or DISPROVE the existence of a God


and there was a time in our primitive past when nobody could PROVE or DISPROVE that the earth was the center of the solar system. And for a LONG time, the catholic church would have us believe that it WAS a fact.

But that was erroneous. And now we DO have the technology to prove that it is in fact, the sun that is the center of the solar system, and not the Earth.

Because that's how science works. Science asks a question - makes a hypothesis - runs THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of meticulously designed experiments that well-controlled and -if- Every one of those experiments leads to the same result - we consider that a Scientific "Theory"


This is how religion works: Book was written by some guy millions of years ago. If I ask questions, I sincerely believe that I'll go to hell - so I don't ask anymore questions.



FACT: There may or may not be some sort of sentient being controlling the outcome of the universe, but if there IS - he designed an Earth where genetic mutations evolve via survival of the fittest and natural selection. Not an Earth where 2 naked people talked to a snake and made sons and daughters who all fucked each other.


/end of discussion

saying "end of discussion" doesn't make it the end of the discussion...

too tired to address every point u made, but I will say that albert einstein an quantum physics are not the same, obviously...doesn't make what I said any less true...an albert einstein did state there has to be some kind of sentient energy holding together the fabric of our universe...beyond that, I never said that organisms don't evolve...I said that creation came thru G-d an the story of adam an eve is true...the human genome project traced civilization back to one man an one woman from the african continent...lets not forget the bountiful problems with the missing link ape to man theory...

[detour]

Originally Posted by Mike Wrecka

wow logic does not exist in your world. congrats on that. T Rex ate meat several studies have been done that shows the main teeth it used for biting were very deeply rooted. And why would it be the first and only animal that has sharp carnivorous looking teeth solely for eating plants.

even so , im pretty sure a velociraptor was a killing machine. or was he a herbivore as well?


all dinosaurs were just happy little herbivores that lived with people in perfect harmony.


that makes sense. your so right jewtour

congratulations on being totally oblivious to the fact that the t rex teeth connected to their guns in not only a shallow socket, which is not conducive to biting into the hide of another dinosaur, but also that the roots of the teeth were rounded in shape, which is a trait of herbivors, given the fact a pronged tooth root is necessary to hold the tooth in the gum...a rounded junction provides no manner for the tooth to resist the force pulling on it as the t rex would have tried to tear away another dinosaurs flesh an hide...

simply put, the t rex teeth would have punctured another dinosaurs hide, but they would have stayed in said dinosaurs hide...I don't care what kind of studies they've done to "prove" that t rex was a carnivore, there's nothing there to prove it...u can, however, examine modern day animals an quickly make the assertion that rounded tooth roots are not a trait of carnivores...u assume just cuz dinosaurs were big that they must have been ferociously violent, but there's no way to really know that with the evidence we have to study...

people survived in times of predators the likes of which we've never seen...what would make dinosaurs any different?

[Answer]

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

Aside from this conversation, bolding or italicizing words in an argument actually makes your argument weaker. Your points should stand out on their own. It's amateurish. @Answer

And yet the argument is not nearly as weak as someone who bases their beliefs off of a book that was written 2,000 years ago, mistranslated erroneously dozens of times, with even greater number of excerpts that have been proven scientifically inaccurate.

Science. It works Even when there's bolds and italics!

[Eŋg]

erroneous is an egregious word. in the archaic sense.

itt: mike wrecka rubs one of his two brain cells.

[Answer]

Originally Posted by detour

the human genome project traced civilization back to one man an one woman from the african continent...

Do you even do your research before you spew bullshit out of your mouth? First of all, the human genome project was an utter failure, which didn't prove anything that hadn't already been confirmed. Humans share 99% of the same genetic make-ups as chimpanzees. Big deal. You also share 50% of the same genes as a Banana. Perhaps that would have been a more cogent argument for you to make.

Secondly, there is no evidence at all that civilization traces back to one man and one woman. There were 3 different species of the homo genus evolving at the same time in Africa. No shit, at some point you're eventually going to have to draw an intangible line that says "This is going to be the first being that we officially dub a homosapien" but that's almost as arbitrary as drawing a line on a map and calling one part Canada and the other part United States.

Furthermore, the Mitochrondrial Eve and Y-Chromosomal Adam lived thousands of years apart. Unless you're just naive enough to believe that the human lifespan was really over a Millenium back then, at which point - you should just off yourself now and save a lot of teachers the trouble of trying to educate your retarded little offspring.

If you want to believe in a God, that's fine. Just know that every Religion on this earth is the conception of pompous dolts who were dumb enough to believe that Humanity was such an important cornerstone that God just picked an arbitrary spec out of the vastness of the universe *because that was his favorite!* - and completely ignored all the other shit around it.

Yeah, No. There's Billions of planets, inside Billions of Solar Systems, inside Billions of Galaxies, in what could potentially be billions of universes. Billions of which have the potential to harbor life, which ironically never gets mentioned in the bible, because this....all of this...is all about you.

Right....everything is about you. You and your shitty little less-than-100-year lifespan. You, who couldn't even get a degree in science in math because face it, you're fucking stupid - as is everyone else in the human race, because our technology relative to the length of our existence is so primitive that it's laughable, and a large part of that failure can be contributed to religion, for setting us back decades after decades.

Logic. #Whenitworksitjustworks

[detour]

guess what I didnt do?

read all that shit u just typed...

[Fart]

Guess what god didnt do?
exist

Originally Posted by Art

Guess what god didnt do?
exist

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[Fart]

oh man did you just make that up?!

[Answer]

Originally Posted by detour

guess what I didnt do?

read all that shit u just typed...

Guess what else you didn't read?

The Bible. Because if you can't handle 6 paragraphs, you damn sure can't handle upwards of 31,000 verses.

But it's really no surprise that you're both naive and illiterate. They're certainly corollary


No lols needed. Just facts.

Originally Posted by Art

oh man did you just make that up?!

Lol

[uh-oh]

trex shed teeth like crocs. they were scavengers who would run others off their kills.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Answer

And yet the argument is not nearly as weak as someone who bases their beliefs off of a book that was written 2,000 years ago, mistranslated erroneously dozens of times, with even greater number of excerpts that have been proven scientifically inaccurate.

Science. It works Even when there's bolds and italics!

What about the bible has been proven scientifically innacurate?

Also....show me one example of mutation causing a superior effect....never. mutations produce inferiorities. Look at inbred rednecks. This is not the x men.

[Water]

There are several historically inaccurate references in the bible, that can be backed up by both science and what we know about the earth. Additionally, I don't believe that there is a God who just smites the shit out of people for fucking out of wedlock or being gay.

That being said, I think the bible was relevant to it's time, but is being used out of context in today's society as we have evolved from it's way of life. I think there are many versions of God and that no one version is or should be considered right. If you look at the historical facts Horus predates Jesus and comes from the same scenario.

To assume that the earth is the only living planet or that the bible is of 100% factual information is the same bull shit thinking that lead to the witch crusades or the theory that the earth was flat.

The pure and simple fact and the only fact we can look at is that each side has to much stake and power in their side being the right side, nothing will ever come to light.

One last thing Albert Einstein never believed in Quantum Physics.

[veritas]

ok so in the above post you say that you have answered my question, but didn't. then you state your personal beliefs as proof of God's nonexistence.

carry on.