@Split Eight @Vulgar @Pancake

[Mael]

Or whoever, here's what I need. Because I know you guys have that advanced ear and a large collection of music no one listens to.

A song, preferably an instrumental, that features dope piano riffs. Or anything that has a repetitive, jazzy sounding piano playing. Accompanying drum loop with a hard snare would be a plus.

Thanks in advanced, yeah.

@Split Eight @Vulgar @PancakeBrah @Objective etc..

[Certain]

@Sharp Nine is the musically inclined half.

But what do you mean? Are you trying to recreate Jazzmatazz?

[Witty]

An advanced ear?

Please don't be that guy.

They have a different tatse, not an advanced ear.

[Ghost1]

Originally Posted by Certain

@Sharp Nine is the musically inclined half.

But what do you mean? Are you trying to recreate Jazzmatazz?

FUCK SOLAR

[Sharp]

Originally Posted by Witty

An advanced ear?

Please don't be that guy.

They have a different tatse, not an advanced ear.

I will transcribe you into a fucking ditch if you question my ear again witty


:)


that said i have no idea how aural stuff plays out into knowing music BUT I know some jazzy piano stuff


@Mael you mean like this?




or maybe this?

[Vulgar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0k_Dcd2Np8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiCoL1NfEM4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ybrqi6jm5k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEek5PzbCf0
^not an instrumental but perfect.

[Witty]

Originally Posted by Sharp Nine

I will transcribe you into a fucking ditch if you question my ear again witty


:)


that said i have no idea how aural stuff plays out into knowing music BUT I know some jazzy piano stuff


@Mael you mean like this?




or maybe this?

Lol I know you studied it, so I definitely concede that you have a better personal understanding of music than myself and probably most people here, but having a certain taste in the music you enjoy is different than having an advanced ear.

Also, he didn't even mention you lol WHY ARE YOU FUCKING WITH ME?

[trap.]

[Vulgar]

^Sick.

[Mael]

@Certain

No.

@Witty

Took me 3-4 years to truly understand the absurd beauty of off-beat trip-hop and experiential music. Advanced listeners sounds about right.

@Sharp Nine

Motherfucker. That second beat, because I prefer more upbeat tunes. Dope..

@Vulgar

Mr Hyde instrumental was dope as fuck. The others two, but preferably something more upbeat like this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPXfVXazNx8

@trap

Sick beat.

[Witty]

Advanced suggests because they enjoy that music they have a more sophisticated understanding of music, that's nonsense...whatever sounds good in your ear is down to personal taste. They just enjoy a different type of music...using the term advanced ear for someone who enjoys a certain type of music is infinitely arrogant Imo.

[Split]

hm, I have something I can post later

[Mael]

Originally Posted by Witty

Advanced suggests because they enjoy that music they have a more sophisticated understanding of music, that's nonsense...whatever sounds good in your ear is down to personal taste. They just enjoy a different type of music...using the term advanced ear for someone who enjoys a certain type of music is infinitely arrogant Imo.

Nope. Some music literally takes adaption, and several years of getting used to. Check out the description box - the uploader says "Advanced ears understand this. Leave if not understood."

Now anyone who's accustomed to basic 1-2, ABAB beats that dominate mainstream - if they listened to this, would think it's nonsense.

[Mael]

@Split Eight

That would be dope if you could. Also, do you have a list of artists you could recommend me? My library is embarrassingly undersized and I'm looking to fill it up. You know I'm diggin that Prefuse 73 & Amon Tobin.

[Sharp]

Originally Posted by Mael

Nope. Some music literally takes adaption, and several years of getting used to. Check out the description box - the uploader says "Advanced ears understand this. Leave if not understood."

Now anyone who's accustomed to basic 1-2, ABAB beats that dominate mainstream - if they listened to this, would think it's nonsense.

tbh thats the attitude i got into music education to help get rid of

as (probably) one of the most aurally advanced people on this site I can tell you that music has been sticking to the same if not similar formulas since the baroque/classical eras (which were based on renaissance) and as far as chord progressions go we haven't really come anywhere close to as far developed as it got during the romantic era

the reality is everyone has their own little tastes/ideas around music... there's no special 'training' needed to appreciate jazz or classical music. They're just full of little things that you like and you kind find in different contexts. 'Mainstream' pop music is just these little things that are focused on in excess since most of it is essentially a product. But that's all music was during the baroque and classical eras especially (where music was basically just commissioned by the upper class for different events). Haydn, Lizst, all those guys were basically just shitting out tunes for money half of the time while sneaking in their own 'meaningful' compositions here and there until the Romantic era. and that's just a series of 'artists' jerking themselves off



/rant


in short, most music is somewhat accessible. some heavier stuff doesn't require a person to have a greater appreciation for music, but to appreciate themselves as musicians. The rest will follow.

[Certain]

Yeah, but Sharp Nine, that guy who posted that track to YouTube said it's only for advanced ears.

[Sharp]

certain don't tempt me now

[Strikta]

Just found a whole new respect for Sharp Nine.

[Mael]

Originally Posted by Sharp Nine

tbh thats the attitude i got into music education to help get rid of

as (probably) one of the most aurally advanced people on this site I can tell you that music has been sticking to the same if not similar formulas since the baroque/classical eras (which were based on renaissance) and as far as chord progressions go we haven't really come anywhere close to as far developed as it got during the romantic era

the reality is everyone has their own little tastes/ideas around music... there's no special 'training' needed to appreciate jazz or classical music. They're just full of little things that you like and you kind find in different contexts. 'Mainstream' pop music is just these little things that are focused on in excess since most of it is essentially a product. But that's all music was during the baroque and classical eras especially (where music was basically just commissioned by the upper class for different events). Haydn, Lizst, all those guys were basically just shitting out tunes for money half of the time while sneaking in their own 'meaningful' compositions here and there until the Romantic era. and that's just a series of 'artists' jerking themselves off



/rant


in short, most music is somewhat accessible. some heavier stuff doesn't require a person to have a greater appreciation for music, but to appreciate themselves as musicians. The rest will follow.

Show the layman an abstract painting - he'll laugh and call it garbage. Show an Art's student or artist an abstract painting and they'll see things that the average person doesn't.

You probably know more about music than I could ever imagine, but I'm sticking to my guns. I know for a fact this new age of experimental hiphop grew on me more than anything. It started from KRS-One and slowly moved into more obscure areas; Dorian Concept, Dimlite, Amon Tobin etc.

Nonetheless, that's just my opinion. If someone could pick up intentionally off-beat static sounds, good for em.

[Sharp]

Originally Posted by Mael

Show the layman an abstract painting - he'll laugh and call it garbage. Show an Art's student or artist an abstract painting and they'll see things that the average person doesn't.

You probably know more about music than I could ever imagine, but I'm sticking to my guns. I know for a fact this new age of experimental hiphop grew on me more than anything. It started from KRS-One and slowly moved into more obscure areas; Dorian Concept, Dimlite, Amon Tobin etc.

Nonetheless, that's just my opinion. If someone could pick up intentionally off-beat static sounds, good for em.

that's the beauty of Art - we've been in an area where motive is the only thing that really and truly validates it. John Cage's 4:33 is a shining example - it's 4 minutes and 33 seconds of rests that's the result of years of spiritual growth and searching for true silence (which he related to meditation)

the somewhat famous story is that Cage was invited to test what was thought to be the most acoustically controlled and quietest room ever made, developed at a university. After a few seconds he hears a high-pitched noise and walks out, asking what it was. He was told it was blood moving past his ear. The point of the piece was to show there is no true silence, even if that's what is intended. Sounds like a concert hall's lighting and central air, audience breathing, etc will always be present


whereas if I wrote it, it would be more to say 'you artsy fucks'll listen to anything' - that motive becomes the substance of the piece. I'm not a huge 'art' guy but I find a lot of abstract art done during World Wars to be much more significant for that reason

jazz too - I've taken solos literally making fun of how formulaic and desperate to sound different soloists have gotten, only to be met with 'yo that was so out dude'


I can respect and appreciate just about anyone's taste as long as they're not too militant or dickish about it, so believe me, I'm always glad when you find something you like in any sort of pattern of (un)organized sound. that said, if you're calling all of music art, I can only strongly disagree