When it comes to pure rapping talent. ..Big L is AT LEAST top 5 of all time. - Page 3

Mr. J · 03-27-2016, 02:21 AM

I repped Oats then Innovator because Im nice

Geno · 03-27-2016, 02:27 PM

@Mr. J
collab time eh?

Mr. J · 03-27-2016, 02:33 PM

@Genocide send whatever you have in mind breh.

I'm on my Breakfast of champions ish right now

Utmost · 03-27-2016, 04:05 PM

top is 5 is a bit generous considering if you start a list
(No Specific Order)

Em
Nas
Big
Pac
Black thought
Pun
Common
Masta Ace
Kweli
Jay
Jada
Royce
Pharoah
Big L
G rap
Redman
Rakim
AZ
BDKane
Cube
QTip
Andre 3000
Lupe
Luda

Razah · 03-27-2016, 04:20 PM

This is like the dumbest conversation ever.

Top 5 all comes down to preference.

If you did a Top 100 list, all those 100 rappers with technically have 'pure rapping talent' as far as being able to structure a verse / flow.

My name Grafh ya'll

Inno · 03-27-2016, 05:29 PM

Lmao

Mr. J · 03-28-2016, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utmost

top is 5 is a bit generous considering if you start a list
(No Specific Order)

Em
Nas
Big
Pac
Black thought
Pun
Common
Masta Ace
Kweli
Jay
Jada
Royce
Pharoah
Big L
G rap
Redman
Rakim
AZ
BDKane
Cube
QTip
Andre 3000
Lupe
Luda

Id drop Em, Pac, & Luda for KRS, Ras Kass & Killer Mike

Witty · 03-28-2016, 11:05 AM

Not having Em near the top of that list is insane.

As far as opinion, whether or not you like the content is opinion, but technical skill is measurable.

I love KRS, but did he have the technical ability of an Eminem, a Pun, a Big L...absolutely not.

It's only one aspect of what makes an artist great, I respect that, I'm not saying it's the most important either, that is opinion too. It's also only one aspect of lyricism...I think people mistake lyricism for technical skill, for me great lyricism also includes great story telling, writing in a way that connects emotionally with the listener...which is why I consider Pac a top lyricist, but not a top technical rapper. Which is also why I didn't say best lyricist in this title as that would not be my opinion.

Beretta · 03-28-2016, 02:54 PM

Em, Pun, L

Always been my personal top 3

King · 03-28-2016, 03:09 PM

In no order my top 5 would be

Black Thought
Pharoahe Monch
Eminem
Gift of Gab
Rakim

I was never a huge fan of Big L. He was ahead of his time style wise, I agree, but idk about cracking into elite status. I just don't see it.

Witty · 03-28-2016, 03:36 PM

Black thought is so underrated.

Mr. J · 03-28-2016, 03:38 PM

^^^^lol

never heard that before

Witty · 03-28-2016, 03:41 PM

When it comes to Em, I think technically he is better than he has ever been...his wordplay in particular is incredibly subtle. I think he lacks in other aspects he didn't used to lack in...maybe that's age, maybe that's not being in the inner circle of hip hop anymore, idk..i still admire him as a writer. He's incredible.

Witty · 03-28-2016, 03:43 PM

He can't make a banger to save his life tho.

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Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,801 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 82986458	Not having Em near the top of that list is insane. As far as opinion, whether or not you like the content is opinion, but technical skill is measurable. I love KRS, but did he have the technical ability of an Eminem, a Pun, a Big L...absolutely not. It's only one aspect of what makes an artist great, I respect that, I'm not saying it's the most important either, that is opinion too. It's also only one aspect of lyricism...I think people mistake lyricism for technical skill, for me great lyricism also includes great story telling, writing in a way that connects emotionally with the listener...which is why I consider Pac a top lyricist, but not a top technical rapper. Which is also why I didn't say best lyricist in this title as that would not be my opinion. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

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Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,801 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 82986458	Black thought is so underrated. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

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Utmost Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 322 Battle Record: 13-19 Champed - 1-2 Punch League Rep Power: 4320633	top is 5 is a bit generous considering if you start a list (No Specific Order) Em Nas Big Pac Black thought Pun Common Masta Ace Kweli Jay Jada Royce Pharoah Big L G rap Redman Rakim AZ BDKane Cube QTip Andre 3000 Lupe Luda

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Razah rockkFresh Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Chicago. Posts: 1,088 Battle Record: 8-10 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 11328542	This is like the dumbest conversation ever. Top 5 all comes down to preference. If you did a Top 100 list, all those 100 rappers with technically have 'pure rapping talent' as far as being able to structure a verse / flow. My name Grafh ya'll

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Beretta Sharpshooter Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland Posts: 78 Rep Power: 3426720	Em, Pun, L Always been my personal top 3

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King Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 253 Battle Record: 6-10 Rep Power: 1112902	In no order my top 5 would be Black Thought Pharoahe Monch Eminem Gift of Gab Rakim I was never a huge fan of Big L. He was ahead of his time style wise, I agree, but idk about cracking into elite status. I just don't see it.

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Mr. J The Clown Prince Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 5,028 Battle Record: 35-45 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 59349678	^^^^lol never heard that before __________________ .....laugh....and the world laughs with you

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Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,801 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 82986458	When it comes to Em, I think technically he is better than he has ever been...his wordplay in particular is incredibly subtle. I think he lacks in other aspects he didn't used to lack in...maybe that's age, maybe that's not being in the inner circle of hip hop anymore, idk..i still admire him as a writer. He's incredible. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

03-28-2016, 03:43 PM	#54
Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,801 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 82986458	He can't make a banger to save his life tho. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.