Karaoke vs. Cashius - Karaoke Wins

Neighbor · 11-12-2013, 02:13 PM

NBL
Week 4

Due Tuesday, November 19th

Minimum - 10 lines
Max - 16 lines
Line limit can increase if both agree

NO biting
NO swaying
NO feeding
You must check in
Don't edit after your opponent has posted
2nd person to post can't edit after the first vote comes in
Don't be an idiot
You must vote on 4 battles & post your links in the Voting Thread
Don't use your opponent's pic unless it's a pic battle
Agree on a line limit
May God have mercy on your souls

@Karaoke @Cashius

King Karaoke · 11-14-2013, 07:42 PM

Hi...

In...

Bye...

Cashius · 11-17-2013, 06:19 PM

Check. 10.

Cashius · 11-19-2013, 10:57 PM

Sent 10.

King Karaoke · 11-20-2013, 01:04 AM

Hi...

gotta post in the a.m...
hope you guys understand...

Bye...

Cashius · 11-20-2013, 09:46 AM

Go for it.

King Karaoke · 11-21-2013, 12:06 AM

Hi...

I'll beat him to a pulp and wont show this guy any pity
I'm grimey and gritty, you'll get your ribs swolled up for trying to be Witty
Its obvious who you are, I'll be the first to point it out
They say season 6 lacked decent heads, that's a lie, they were all writing for ur account
But champing that season didn't prove that this guy's ill
When all he did was go through more scrubs than Malachi's grill
Bitches call me Mandingo but I really wont brag
Ur just stuck with a pussy between ur legs like Neigh during the video mag
I don't have any kids cuz I made ur mother drink mine
While I had 3 fingers up in her like I was giving her pussy the hunger games sign

Bye...

Neighbor · 11-21-2013, 12:10 AM

Cash's verse

Your old girl didn't even like phone sex w/ you. Yup, and Cash isn't kidding
Only time you were able to turn your Exxon Mobile is pumping gas for a living
Everything out your pen is a lie. You need to get some standards
With the Incurable shitter...to the point we all hope you get rectal cancer
He just copped a chick who's 3 bills...That whore might be dead by now, bitch
People were laughing at that New Girl wayyyy before Orc made a thread about it
It's like her belly, it droops for the hell of it dude...she should try to suck the shit in
All it takes is one look at her Khoran you'll know that this guy is in love with a pig
This broke bitch can't even get a loan. Dude, face it...it's truth
You hear F NO from Banks so often you must have his new tape on a loop

Sentex · 11-21-2013, 07:58 AM

Good battle.

I think both verses were pretty good. I picked up on most the references about the board from both of you. I think Karaoke's verse was quite heavily focused on the forum, not overly a bad thing but nothing really grabbed me from his verse. I think it was a solid verse though, the hunger games line was cool.. and Malachi's grill is relevant.. The neighbour pussy between the legs was funny..

Cash's verse was more reader friendly I think.. the first two lines were cool.. I thought the Khoran punch was nice.. it was my line of the battle.. F NO was cool...

pretty solid battle.. well done for showing up.. looks like this week has been a bit of a let down..

but I'm gonna have to give this one to Cash, I preferred his verse a bit more.

V/ Cash.

KwaL!ty · 11-21-2013, 09:08 AM

I'll beat him to a pulp and wont show this guy any pity
I'm grimey and gritty, you'll get your ribs swolled up for trying to be Witty
But champing that season didn't prove that this guy's ill
When all he did was go through more scrubs than Malachi's grill
Bitches call me Mandingo but I really wont brag
Ur just stuck with a pussy between ur legs like Neigh during the video mag

vs

Your old girl didn't even like phone sex w/ you. Yup, and Cash isn't kidding
Only time you were able to turn your Exxon Mobile is pumping gas for a living
Everything out your pen is a lie. You need to get some standards
With the Incurable shitter...to the point we all hope you get rectal cancer
It's like her belly, it droops for the hell of it dude...she should try to suck the shit in
All it takes is one look at her Khoran you'll know that this guy is in love with a pig
This broke bitch can't even get a loan. Dude, face it...it's truth
You hear F NO from Banks so often you must have his new tape on a loop

Vote- goes to cashius came overall more direct than Karie .. Cash had better misses & lotb with ---
Your old girl didn't even like phone sex w/ you. Yup, and Cash isn't kidding
Only time you were able to turn your Exxon Mobile is pumping gas for a living

the wordplay & execution on this bar was on point & as soon as i read it .. Even though Karie had a good verse i knew it was over from the opener ...

Destroyer · 11-21-2013, 08:25 PM

decent heads, pussy between legs

vs

Exxon, banks

I got karaoke here. I dunno. some stuff from cash just didn't hit for me
like khoran works but just makes no sense in that context
anyway, it was a decent battle

v/newsman

Unfukwitable · 11-21-2013, 08:27 PM

I'll beat him to a pulp and wont show this guy any pity
I'm grimey and gritty, you'll get your ribs swolled up for trying to be Witty
Its obvious who you are, I'll be the first to point it out
They say season 6 lacked decent heads, that's a lie, they were all writing for ur account
But champing that season didn't prove that this guy's ill
When all he did was go through more scrubs than Malachi's grill

v/s

Your old girl didn't even like phone sex w/ you. Yup, and Cash isn't kidding
Only time you were able to turn your Exxon Mobile is pumping gas for a living
Everything out your pen is a lie. You need to get some standards
With the Incurable shitter...to the point we all hope you get rectal cancer
It's like her belly, it droops for the hell of it dude...she should try to suck the shit in
All it takes is one look at her Khoran you'll know that this guy is in love with a pig
This broke bitch can't even get a loan. Dude, face it...it's truth
You hear F NO from Banks so often you must have his new tape on a loop

One had a cool start and ideas but I didn't feel like he executed them to his full potential and I also think his verse was better In the beginning, The other had a Nice drop some good wp and wording . I seen way stronger drops from him but I think he did just enough to get my vote . Both had good verse but one edged it . v/Cash

Answer · 11-21-2013, 10:54 PM

writing for your account, scrubs, pussy/cat lines are way too played, you also kind of did back to back pussy lines, whether or not they're related...it's kind of redundant. You could've just omitted the word altogether - and the line is really simplistic

Exxon mobile, New girl, Khoran

this is close, but in 2013 - i really don't think there's ever an acceptable reason to use a Cat/Pussy line - and that really hurt karaoke's verse for me. Other than that, it was mostly neck and neck..

MVGT - Cash

CtrlF4 · 11-24-2013, 11:06 AM

kar

opener, 6 decent heads, neighbor, scrubs

vs

cash

exxon, new girl, fno

v/kar...better misses imo....I didn't like khoran really or rectal cancer....hunger games was terrible and scrubs was barely a quote

Sharp · 12-01-2013, 07:53 PM

I'll beat him to a pulp and wont show this guy any pity
I'm grimey and gritty, you'll get your ribs swolled up for trying to be Witty
Bitches call me Mandingo but I really wont brag
Ur just stuck with a pussy between ur legs like Neigh during the video mag

Your old girl didn't even like phone sex w/ you. Yup, and Cash isn't kidding
Only time you were able to turn your Exxon Mobile is pumping gas for a living
All it takes is one look at her Khoran you'll know that this guy is in love with a pig

sick battle. really close. it was pretty even overall, i just thought Kar had the lotb with the opener so that edges it to him for me.

v/karaoke

Ryan 12 · 12-02-2013, 01:43 AM

I'll beat him to a pulp and wont show this guy any pity
I'm grimey and gritty, you'll get your ribs swolled up for trying to be Witty
^cool
Its obvious who you are, I'll be the first to point it out
They say season 6 lacked decent heads, that's a lie, they were all writing for ur account
^lmao
But champing that season didn't prove that this guy's ill
When all he did was go through more scrubs than Malachi's grill
^ok
Bitches call me Mandingo but I really wont brag
Ur just stuck with a pussy between ur legs like Neigh during the video mag
^rofl
I don't have any kids cuz I made ur mother drink mine
While I had 3 fingers up in her like I was giving her pussy the hunger games sign
^meh

vs

Your old girl didn't even like phone sex w/ you. Yup, and Cash isn't kidding
Only time you were able to turn your Exxon Mobile is pumping gas for a living
^dope
Everything out your pen is a lie. You need to get some standards
With the Incurable shitter...to the point we all hope you get rectal cancer
^meh played concept
He just copped a chick who's 3 bills...That whore might be dead by now, bitch
People were laughing at that New Girl wayyyy before Orc made a thread about it
^nah
It's like her belly, it droops for the hell of it dude...she should try to suck the shit in
All it takes is one look at her Khoran you'll know that this guy is in love with a pig
^wp doesnt sound right both ways tbh
This broke bitch can't even get a loan. Dude, face it...it's truth
You hear F NO from Banks so often you must have his new tape on a loop
^ok

this was an ok battle imo. nothing that great

in terms of consistency i got kar, but cash had lotb with that dope exxon wp

vote - karaoke

CtrlF4 · 12-02-2013, 06:27 PM

4-4 first one up my two votes win

Boredom · 12-02-2013, 07:04 PM

ts obvious who you are, I'll be the first to point it out
They say season 6 lacked decent heads, that's a lie, they were all writing for ur account
itches call me Mandingo but I really wont brag
Ur just stuck with a pussy between ur legs like Neigh during the video mag
I don't have any kids cuz I made ur mother drink mine
While I had 3 fingers up in her like I was giving her pussy the hunger games sign

vs

Your old girl didn't even like phone sex w/ you. Yup, and Cash isn't kidding
Only time you were able to turn your Exxon Mobile is pumping gas for a living
Everything out your pen is a lie. You need to get some standards
With the Incurable shitter...to the point we all hope you get rectal cancer
He just copped a chick who's 3 bills...That whore might be dead by now, bitch
People were laughing at that New Girl wayyyy before Orc made a thread about it

battle was dope as fuck, quotables matched but kars non quotes hit harder and was slightly more consistent so for that he gmv

CtrlF4 · 12-02-2013, 08:47 PM

5-4 karaoke

a few more votes wud be nice

ill nik-A · 12-02-2013, 09:17 PM

Hmm..
Kar had the account line and hunger line, didn't like the disc forum lines

Cash had the cancer line that was aight, Exxon concept is mad played, Khoran wordplay? He'll naw and I wasn't feelin the Orc disc board kar type line, banks was eh ok

Wasn't feeling much but kar wins it

11-12-2013, 02:13 PM	#1
Neighbor Genghis Khan Vuitton Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 3,304 Battle Record: 30-10 Accomplishments - Hall of Fame Champed - Pic Key Grand Prix - 1-2 Season 1 - Newbie Tournament II - Fight Night LXII - Fight Night XLII - Fight Night XXXIII - Fight Night XXVI - BA Swag & Flow - 1-2 Punch League (2x) - Netcees Battle League(2x) - BA Slugfest II - Fight Night of Champions - Fight Night LXXXIII - Summer Classic X Rep Power: 34764468	Karaoke vs. Cashius - Karaoke Wins NBL Week 4 Due Tuesday, November 19th Minimum - 10 lines Max - 16 lines Line limit can increase if both agree NO biting NO swaying NO feeding You must check in Don't edit after your opponent has posted 2nd person to post can't edit after the first vote comes in Don't be an idiot You must vote on 4 battles & post your links in the Voting Thread Don't use your opponent's pic unless it's a pic battle Agree on a line limit May God have mercy on your souls @Karaoke @Cashius __________________ Even signing my autograph’s like writing a slaughter pact

11-14-2013, 07:42 PM	#2
King Karaoke Stackin' wins... Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,515 Battle Record: 61-20 Accomplishments - 50 Wins Champed - Survivor Tournament - Netcees Battle League (6x) - Netcees Gimmick Tournament Rep Power: 10353694	Hi... In... Bye... __________________ the Outsiders Orc \| ill nik-A \| Sn00p \| King Karaoke

11-20-2013, 01:04 AM	#5
King Karaoke Stackin' wins... Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,515 Battle Record: 61-20 Accomplishments - 50 Wins Champed - Survivor Tournament - Netcees Battle League (6x) - Netcees Gimmick Tournament Rep Power: 10353694	Hi... gotta post in the a.m... hope you guys understand... Bye... __________________ the Outsiders Orc \| ill nik-A \| Sn00p \| King Karaoke

11-21-2013, 12:06 AM	#7
King Karaoke Stackin' wins... Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,515 Battle Record: 61-20 Accomplishments - 50 Wins Champed - Survivor Tournament - Netcees Battle League (6x) - Netcees Gimmick Tournament Rep Power: 10353694	Hi... I'll beat him to a pulp and wont show this guy any pity I'm grimey and gritty, you'll get your ribs swolled up for trying to be Witty Its obvious who you are, I'll be the first to point it out They say season 6 lacked decent heads, that's a lie, they were all writing for ur account But champing that season didn't prove that this guy's ill When all he did was go through more scrubs than Malachi's grill Bitches call me Mandingo but I really wont brag Ur just stuck with a pussy between ur legs like Neigh during the video mag I don't have any kids cuz I made ur mother drink mine While I had 3 fingers up in her like I was giving her pussy the hunger games sign Bye... __________________ the Outsiders Orc \| ill nik-A \| Sn00p \| King Karaoke Last edited by King Karaoke; 11-21-2013 at 12:09 AM.

11-21-2013, 12:10 AM	#8
Neighbor Genghis Khan Vuitton Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 3,304 Battle Record: 30-10 Accomplishments - Hall of Fame Champed - Pic Key Grand Prix - 1-2 Season 1 - Newbie Tournament II - Fight Night LXII - Fight Night XLII - Fight Night XXXIII - Fight Night XXVI - BA Swag & Flow - 1-2 Punch League (2x) - Netcees Battle League(2x) - BA Slugfest II - Fight Night of Champions - Fight Night LXXXIII - Summer Classic X Rep Power: 34764468	Cash's verse Your old girl didn't even like phone sex w/ you. Yup, and Cash isn't kidding Only time you were able to turn your Exxon Mobile is pumping gas for a living Everything out your pen is a lie. You need to get some standards With the Incurable shitter...to the point we all hope you get rectal cancer He just copped a chick who's 3 bills...That whore might be dead by now, bitch People were laughing at that New Girl wayyyy before Orc made a thread about it It's like her belly, it droops for the hell of it dude...she should try to suck the shit in All it takes is one look at her Khoran you'll know that this guy is in love with a pig This broke bitch can't even get a loan. Dude, face it...it's truth You hear F NO from Banks so often you must have his new tape on a loop __________________ Even signing my autograph’s like writing a slaughter pact

11-17-2013, 06:19 PM	#3
Cashius I'M A MONSTER! Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,555 Battle Record: 77-13 Accomplishments - Hall of Fame Champed - Battle Arena - 1-2 Punch League (2x) - The Quick & The Dead II - BA Swag & Flow Tournament - 1-2 Season 3 - NBL Season 6 - The Elements - Fall Brawl II - Netcees Battle League (4x) - NBL Season 9 - Summer Classic VII - 50+ Wins - The Winter Classic - Tag Team Tourney -1-2 Punch League Rep Power: 20257520	Check. 10.

11-19-2013, 10:57 PM	#4
Cashius I'M A MONSTER! Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,555 Battle Record: 77-13 Accomplishments - Hall of Fame Champed - Battle Arena - 1-2 Punch League (2x) - The Quick & The Dead II - BA Swag & Flow Tournament - 1-2 Season 3 - NBL Season 6 - The Elements - Fall Brawl II - Netcees Battle League (4x) - NBL Season 9 - Summer Classic VII - 50+ Wins - The Winter Classic - Tag Team Tourney -1-2 Punch League Rep Power: 20257520	Sent 10.

11-20-2013, 09:46 AM	#6
Cashius I'M A MONSTER! Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,555 Battle Record: 77-13 Accomplishments - Hall of Fame Champed - Battle Arena - 1-2 Punch League (2x) - The Quick & The Dead II - BA Swag & Flow Tournament - 1-2 Season 3 - NBL Season 6 - The Elements - Fall Brawl II - Netcees Battle League (4x) - NBL Season 9 - Summer Classic VII - 50+ Wins - The Winter Classic - Tag Team Tourney -1-2 Punch League Rep Power: 20257520	Go for it.

11-21-2013, 07:58 AM	#9
Sentex Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Land of the Loose Tooth Posts: 107 Battle Record: 1-2 Rep Power: 33	Good battle. I think both verses were pretty good. I picked up on most the references about the board from both of you. I think Karaoke's verse was quite heavily focused on the forum, not overly a bad thing but nothing really grabbed me from his verse. I think it was a solid verse though, the hunger games line was cool.. and Malachi's grill is relevant.. The neighbour pussy between the legs was funny.. Cash's verse was more reader friendly I think.. the first two lines were cool.. I thought the Khoran punch was nice.. it was my line of the battle.. F NO was cool... pretty solid battle.. well done for showing up.. looks like this week has been a bit of a let down.. but I'm gonna have to give this one to Cash, I preferred his verse a bit more. V/ Cash.

11-21-2013, 09:08 AM	#10
KwaL!ty Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,170 Battle Record: 21-15 Rep Power: 0	I'll beat him to a pulp and wont show this guy any pity I'm grimey and gritty, you'll get your ribs swolled up for trying to be Witty But champing that season didn't prove that this guy's ill When all he did was go through more scrubs than Malachi's grill Bitches call me Mandingo but I really wont brag Ur just stuck with a pussy between ur legs like Neigh during the video mag vs Your old girl didn't even like phone sex w/ you. Yup, and Cash isn't kidding Only time you were able to turn your Exxon Mobile is pumping gas for a living Everything out your pen is a lie. You need to get some standards With the Incurable shitter...to the point we all hope you get rectal cancer It's like her belly, it droops for the hell of it dude...she should try to suck the shit in All it takes is one look at her Khoran you'll know that this guy is in love with a pig This broke bitch can't even get a loan. Dude, face it...it's truth You hear F NO from Banks so often you must have his new tape on a loop Vote- goes to cashius came overall more direct than Karie .. Cash had better misses & lotb with --- Your old girl didn't even like phone sex w/ you. Yup, and Cash isn't kidding Only time you were able to turn your Exxon Mobile is pumping gas for a living the wordplay & execution on this bar was on point & as soon as i read it .. Even though Karie had a good verse i knew it was over from the opener ...

11-21-2013, 08:27 PM	#12
Unfukwitable baz∞ka Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,628 Battle Record: 38-35 Champed - Fight Night 7 - Battle Arena Tournament - 1-2 Punch League Rep Power: 36460385	I'll beat him to a pulp and wont show this guy any pity I'm grimey and gritty, you'll get your ribs swolled up for trying to be Witty Its obvious who you are, I'll be the first to point it out They say season 6 lacked decent heads, that's a lie, they were all writing for ur account But champing that season didn't prove that this guy's ill When all he did was go through more scrubs than Malachi's grill v/s Your old girl didn't even like phone sex w/ you. Yup, and Cash isn't kidding Only time you were able to turn your Exxon Mobile is pumping gas for a living Everything out your pen is a lie. You need to get some standards With the Incurable shitter...to the point we all hope you get rectal cancer It's like her belly, it droops for the hell of it dude...she should try to suck the shit in All it takes is one look at her Khoran you'll know that this guy is in love with a pig This broke bitch can't even get a loan. Dude, face it...it's truth You hear F NO from Banks so often you must have his new tape on a loop One had a cool start and ideas but I didn't feel like he executed them to his full potential and I also think his verse was better In the beginning, The other had a Nice drop some good wp and wording . I seen way stronger drops from him but I think he did just enough to get my vote . Both had good verse but one edged it . v/Cash

11-21-2013, 10:54 PM	#13
Answer He / Him / His Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,675 Battle Record: 20-1 Champed - Summer Classic IX - Netcees Battle League - Fight night 15 Rep Power: 12534702	writing for your account, scrubs, pussy/cat lines are way too played, you also kind of did back to back pussy lines, whether or not they're related...it's kind of redundant. You could've just omitted the word altogether - and the line is really simplistic Exxon mobile, New girl, Khoran this is close, but in 2013 - i really don't think there's ever an acceptable reason to use a Cat/Pussy line - and that really hurt karaoke's verse for me. Other than that, it was mostly neck and neck.. MVGT - Cash

11-24-2013, 11:06 AM	#14
CtrlF4 ....Hakuna Matata.... Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 769 Battle Record: 11-11 Rep Power: 3351059	kar opener, 6 decent heads, neighbor, scrubs vs cash exxon, new girl, fno v/kar...better misses imo....I didn't like khoran really or rectal cancer....hunger games was terrible and scrubs was barely a quote

12-02-2013, 01:43 AM	#16
Ryan 12 Worst of the worst Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 1,014 Battle Record: 6-1 Rep Power: 7023	I'll beat him to a pulp and wont show this guy any pity I'm grimey and gritty, you'll get your ribs swolled up for trying to be Witty ^cool Its obvious who you are, I'll be the first to point it out They say season 6 lacked decent heads, that's a lie, they were all writing for ur account ^lmao But champing that season didn't prove that this guy's ill When all he did was go through more scrubs than Malachi's grill ^ok Bitches call me Mandingo but I really wont brag Ur just stuck with a pussy between ur legs like Neigh during the video mag ^rofl I don't have any kids cuz I made ur mother drink mine While I had 3 fingers up in her like I was giving her pussy the hunger games sign ^meh vs Your old girl didn't even like phone sex w/ you. Yup, and Cash isn't kidding Only time you were able to turn your Exxon Mobile is pumping gas for a living ^dope Everything out your pen is a lie. You need to get some standards With the Incurable shitter...to the point we all hope you get rectal cancer ^meh played concept He just copped a chick who's 3 bills...That whore might be dead by now, bitch People were laughing at that New Girl wayyyy before Orc made a thread about it ^nah It's like her belly, it droops for the hell of it dude...she should try to suck the shit in All it takes is one look at her Khoran you'll know that this guy is in love with a pig ^wp doesnt sound right both ways tbh This broke bitch can't even get a loan. Dude, face it...it's truth You hear F NO from Banks so often you must have his new tape on a loop ^ok this was an ok battle imo. nothing that great in terms of consistency i got kar, but cash had lotb with that dope exxon wp vote - karaoke

12-02-2013, 06:27 PM	#17
CtrlF4 ....Hakuna Matata.... Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 769 Battle Record: 11-11 Rep Power: 3351059	4-4 first one up my two votes win

12-02-2013, 07:04 PM	#18
Boredom Been On One Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,618 Battle Record: 26-28 Champed - Newbie Tournament IV Rep Power: 415107	ts obvious who you are, I'll be the first to point it out They say season 6 lacked decent heads, that's a lie, they were all writing for ur account itches call me Mandingo but I really wont brag Ur just stuck with a pussy between ur legs like Neigh during the video mag I don't have any kids cuz I made ur mother drink mine While I had 3 fingers up in her like I was giving her pussy the hunger games sign vs Your old girl didn't even like phone sex w/ you. Yup, and Cash isn't kidding Only time you were able to turn your Exxon Mobile is pumping gas for a living Everything out your pen is a lie. You need to get some standards With the Incurable shitter...to the point we all hope you get rectal cancer He just copped a chick who's 3 bills...That whore might be dead by now, bitch People were laughing at that New Girl wayyyy before Orc made a thread about it battle was dope as fuck, quotables matched but kars non quotes hit harder and was slightly more consistent so for that he gmv

12-02-2013, 08:47 PM	#19
CtrlF4 ....Hakuna Matata.... Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 769 Battle Record: 11-11 Rep Power: 3351059	5-4 karaoke a few more votes wud be nice

12-02-2013, 09:17 PM	#20
ill nik-A Super Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 7,407 Battle Record: 70-25 Accomplishments - Hall of Fame Champed - Battle Arena - BA Picture - Picture Battle Tournament - Netcees Battle League (3x) - Netcees Writers League (2x) - Summer Classic VI - Fall Brawl III - Netcees Battle League Season X - Lyric Olympics Rep Power: 77164516	Hmm.. Kar had the account line and hunger line, didn't like the disc forum lines Cash had the cancer line that was aight, Exxon concept is mad played, Khoran wordplay? He'll naw and I wasn't feelin the Orc disc board kar type line, banks was eh ok Wasn't feeling much but kar wins it __________________ Grumpy old man.