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07-24-2020, 11:15 PM | #21 |
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I just want to better understand the bucking of 'mainstream science', when it's usually evidence based, in favor of faith based stuff. Shit like flat earth, the age of the earth/universe, dinosaurs/fossils being a satanic trap has perplexed me since I was a kid
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The Exodus FYI comet he's talking about is the PLANET VENUS "The battle in the sky" by Immanuel Velikovsky pages 76-81 Book WORLDS IN COLLISION Audio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8TmFmhEBms The Battle in the Sky At the same time that the seas were heaped up in immense tides, a pageant went on in the sky which presented itself to the horrified onlookers on earth as a gigantic battle. Because this battle was seen from almost all parts of the world, and because it impressed itself very strongly upon the imagination of the peoples, it can be reconstructed in some detail. When the earth passed through the gases, dust, and meteorites of the tail of the comet, disturbed in rotation, it proceeded on a distorted orbit. Emerging from the darkness, the Eastern Hemisphere faced the head of the comet. This head only shortly before had passed close to the sun and was in a state of candescence. The night the great earthquake shook the globe was, according to rabbinical literature, as bright as the day of the summer solstice. Because of the proximity of the earth, the comet left its own orbit and for a while followed the orbit of the earth. The great ball of the comet retreated, then again approached the earth, shrouded in a dark column of gases which looked like a pillar of smoke during the day and of fire at night, and the earth once more passed through the atmosphere of the comet, this time at its neck. This stage was accompanied by violent and incessant electrical discharges between the atmosphere of the tail and the terrestrial atmosphere. There was an interval of about six days between these two close approaches. Emerging from the gases of the comet, the earth seems to have changed the direction of its rotation, and the pillar of smoke moved to the opposite horizon.1 The column looked like a gigantic moving serpent. When the tidal waves rose to their highest point, and the seas were torn apart, a tremendous spark flew between the earth and the globe of the comet, which instantly pushed down the mileshigh billows. Meanwhile, the tail of the comet and its head, having become entangled with each other by their close contact with the earth, exchanged violent discharges of electricity. It looked like a battle between the brilliant globe and the dark column of smoke. In the exchange of electrical potentials, the tail and the head were attracted one to the other and repelled one from the other. From the serpentlike tail extensions grew, and it lost the form of a column. It looked now like a furious animal with legs and with many heads. The discharges tore the column to pieces, a process that was accompanied by a rain of meteorites' upon the earth. It appeared as though the monster were defeated by the brilliant globeand buried in the sea, or wherever the meteorites fell. The gases of the tail subsequently enveloped the earth.The globe of the comet, which lost a large portion of its atmosphere as well as much of its electrical potential, withdrew from the earth but did not break away from its attraction. Apparently, after a six-week interval, the distance between the earth and the globe of the comet again diminished. This new approach of the globe could not be readily observed because the earth was shrouded in the clouds of dust left by the comet on its former approach as well as by dust ejected by the volcanoes. After renewed discharges, the comet and the earth parted. This behavior of the comet is of great importance in problems of celestial mechanics. That a comet, encountering a planet, can become entangled and drawn away from its own path, forced into a new course, and finally liberated from the influence of the planet is proved by the case of Lexell's comet, which in 1767 was captured by Jupiter and its moons. Not until 1779 did it free itself from this entanglement. A phenomenon that has not been observed in modern times is an electrical discharge between a planet and a comet and also between the head of a comet and its trailing part. The events in the sky were viewed by the peoples of the world as a fight between an evil monster in the form of a serpent and the light-god who engaged the monster in battle and thus saved the world. The tail of the comet, leaping back and forth under the discharges of the flaming globe, was regarded as a separate body, inimical to the globe of the comet. A full survey of the religious and folklore motifs which mirror this event would require more space than is at my disposal here; it is difficult to find a people or tribe on the earth that does not have the same motif at the very focus of its religious beliefs.2 Since the descriptions of the battle between Marduk and Tiamat, the dragon, or Isis and Seth, or Vishnu and the serpent, or Krishna 2 I intend to handle a portion of this material in an essay on The Dragon. and serpent, or Ormuzd and Ahriman follow an almost identical pattern and have many details in common with the battle of Zeus and Typhon, I shall give here Apollodorus' description of this battle. Typhon "out-topped all the mountains, and his head often brushed the stars. One of his hands reached out to the west and the other to the east, and from them projected a hundred dragons' heads. From the thighs downward he had huge coils of vipers which . . . emitted a long hissing. . . . His body was all winged . . . and fire flashed from his eyes. Such and so great was Typhon when, hurling kindled rocks, he made for the very heaven with hissing and shouts, spouting a great jet of fire from his mouth." To the sky of Egypt Zeus pursued Typhon "rushing at heaven." "Zeus pelted Typhon at a distance with thunderbolts, and at close quarters struck him down with an adamantine sickle, and as he fled pursued him closely as far as Mount Casius, which overhangs Syria. There, seeing the monster sore wounded, he grappled with him. But Typhon twined about him and gripped him in his coils. . . ." "Having recovered his strength Zeus suddenly from heaven riding in a chariot of winged horses, pelted Typhon with thunderbolts. ... So being again pursued he [Typhon] came to Thrace and in fighting at Mount Haemus he heaved whole mountains ... a stream of blood gushed out on the mountain, and they say that from that circumstance the mountain was called Haemus [bloody]. And when he started to flee through the Sicilian sea, Zeus cast Mount Etna in Sicily upon him. That is a huge mountain, from which down to this day they say that blasts of fire issue from the thunderbolts that were thrown." The struggle left deep marks on the entire ancient world. Some districts were especially associated with the events of this cosmic fight. The Egyptian shore of the Red Sea was called Typhonia.* Strabo narrates also that the Arimi (Aramaeans or Syrians) were terrified witnesses of the battle of Zeus with Typhon. And Typhon, "who, they add, was a dragon, when struck by the bolts of lightning, fled in search of a descent underground," 5 and not only did he cut furrows into the earth and form the beds of the rivers, but descending underground, he made fountains break forth. Similar descriptions come from various places of the ancient world, in which the nations relate the experience of their ancestors who witnessed the great catastrophe of the middle of the second millennium. -At that time the Israelites had not yet arrived at a clear monotheistic concept and, like other peoples, they saw in the great struggle a conflict between good and evil. The author of the Book of Exodus, suppressing this conception of the ancient Israelites, presented the portent of fire and smoke moving in a column as an angel or messenger of the Lord. However, many passages in other books of the Scriptures preserved the picture as it impressed itself upon eyewitnesses. Rahab is the Hebrew name for the contester with the Most High. "O Lord God of hosts, who is a strong Lord like unto thee? . . . Thou hast broken Rahab in pieces. . . . The heavens are thine, the earth also is thine: as for the world and the fulness thereof, thou hast founded them. The north and the south thou hast created them."6 Deutero-Isaiah prayed: "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the Lord; awake as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon? Art thou not it which hath dried the sea, the waters of the great deep; that hath made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over?" 7 From these passages it is clear that the battle of the Lord with Rahab was not a primeval battle before Creation, as some .scholars think.8 Isaiah prophesied for the future: "In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea." 9 The "crooked serpent" is shown in many ancient pictures from 6 Psalms 89 : 10-12. * Isaiah 51 : 9-10. » Isaiah 27 : 1. bound Israelites saw the upheaval of nature: darkness, hurricane, mountains of water, fire and smoke, recorded in the Greek legend as the circumstances in which the battle of Zeus with the dragon Typhon was fought. In the same pit of the sea lie the pharaoh and his hosts.3 s Up to now I have identified Rahab-Typhon as a comet. But if Typhon lies on the bottom of the sea, is he not the pharaoh? This would mean that in the legend of Typhon two elements were welded together: the pharaoh, who perished in the catastrophe, and the outrageous rebel against Zeus, the lord of the sky.4 \ In Pliny's Natural History, the ninety-first section of the second book reads: 5 "A terrible comet was seen by the people of Ethiopia and Egypt, to which Typhon, the king of that period, gave his name; it had a fiery appearance and was twisted like a coil, and it was very grim to behold: it was not really a star so much as what might be called a ball of fire." The visit of a disastrous comet, so many times referred to in this book, is told in plain words, not in disguise. However, I must find support for my assumption that the comet of the days of King Typhon was the comet of the days of the Exodus. I investigated the writings of the old chronographers, and in Cometographia of Hevelius (1688) I found references to the works of Calvisius, Helvicus, Herlicius, and Rockenbach, all of whom used manuscripts for the most part and not printed sources, as they lived only a little over one century after the invention of movable characters and the printing press. ^ Hevelius wrote (in Latin): "In the year of the world 2453 (1495 b.c), according to certain authorities, a comet was seen in Syria, 3 In Ages in Chaos, evidence will be presented to identify the pharaoh of the Exodus as Taui Thom, the last king of the Middle Kingdom. He is Tau Timaeus (Tutimaeus) of Manetiio, in whose days "a blast of God's displeasure" fell upon Egypt and terminated the period at present known as the Middle Kingdom. The name of his queen is given in the naos of el-Arish as Tephnut. Ra-uah-ab is a name met among the Egyptian kings of that period (W.M.F. Petrie, A History of Egypt, I, 227); it could have served as origin for the Hebrew word for dragon, Rahab. See note 4. 4 Actually, "dragon" became the appellation of Egyptian pharaohs in the prophetic literature. Cf. Ezekiel 32 : 2. China to India, to Persia, to Assyria, to Egypt, to Mexico. With the rise of the monotheistic concept, the Israelites regarded this crooked serpent, the contester with the Most High, as the Lord's own creation. "He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing. . . . The pillars of heaven tremble. . . . He divideth the sea with his power ... his hand hath formed the crooked serpent." 10 The Psalmist also says: " "God is my King of old. . . . Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength. . . . Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces. . . . Thou didst cleave the fountain and the flood: Thou driedst up mighty rivers." The sea was cleft, the earth was cut with furrows, great rivers disappeared, others appeared. The earth rumbled for many years, and the peoples thought that the fiery dragon that had been struck down had descended underground and was groaning there. Last edited by Urban Dialect; 07-25-2020 at 11:58 PM. |
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The sheer amount of weirdos that end up on these message boards is disconcerting
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Chyeahhh's original post is gone!?!?..I was looking foward to reading it. Can someone repost it or Chyeahhh message me with it?
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What he posted cited no sources and seemed like the normal gobbledygook
No offense Same Planet X shit
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I need some of that gobbledygook.haha.
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Which before the flood it was smaller...and did have more oxygen in the atmosphere Mainstream also puts Millions of years time stamp on everything, like we've been around for that long. carbon Dating is bullshit, just like the drug testing kits the police uses on the streets to test substances that they believe to be drugs the cassini mission to saturn was in 2007.. velikovsky wrote and argued in his book in 1950 saying that the water in earth's oceans, mainly the pacific ocean came from Saturn. Only to be discredited by mainstream science back then. article on the Cassini mission to the Saturn system "These researchers found that, based on spectroscopic observations of the Saturn system from Cassini, the water in Saturn’s rings and moons is surprisingly like the water on Earth — an unexpected result, given their disparate locations. Even stranger, the water on Saturn’s moon Phoebe (and only Phoebe) is unlike the rest of the water in the Saturn system, suggesting it formed even farther out in the solar nebula, rather than in place around the ringed planet." Link to entire article just pulled relevant information for this post.. http://<br /> https://astronomy.com/...ept-for-phoebe But do the research yourself and decide, don't blindly discredit someone because "mainstream" has discredited them. This is some good shit i'm given yall Last edited by Urban Dialect; 07-26-2020 at 11:44 PM. |
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I do believe that science and religion (judeo christianity and the Abrahamic/Israelites God) coincide instead of conflict as I said on another thread. Science adds validity to the intelligent design argument and some scientific theories explain how God can be omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent.
But, what you posted...well, that was just a bunch of chaotic and idiotic dribble with no facts, evidence or sauces. You're not enlightened, you're disturbed, you're god is actually a mental illness I hope you get help with. Edit: just saw chyeahhs prediction...nice to see that dude still persevering, that dudes been wrong on exactly 100% of his predictions but goddamn he never gives up. Its inspirational is what it is. Tell em bro, you only gotta be right once and it's over with lol. This quote seems mildly appropriate: what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Last edited by Useless; 07-27-2020 at 04:25 AM. |
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