AOWL Week 4 Chat & Predictions. - Page 3

Zen · 03-05-2013, 01:59 PM

I have accumulated no debt. Sorry I'm just not a capitalist so I can't agree with America's system truly. I don't agree with exploiting others man. I just can't I'm not just Zen in name I try to be Zen in my daily life lol. Your views are your views and I respect you for voicing them honestly but I can't agree with America's get rich or die tryin mantra. I really can't. People should be helped man. People should be equal.

dead man · 03-05-2013, 01:59 PM

actually many european and english university programs are far superior to any US school..

not to mention all the developed countries that provide a free college education for their citizens

i would not say US is the best, BAR NONE. by a long shot. yes we have a pretty accessible higher education system. but we also have a lot of people in debt from their student loans with no jobs available to pay them back. you can attribute that to personal failures or the system. either way, it's a problem.

Zen · 03-05-2013, 02:04 PM

Yeah US is like 30th or 40th in the world or something like that now I saw from some ad during the pres election but I can't say if that's true or not. But yeah I believe the system and the idiocy of the people are to be blamed, neither deserve the full blame I agree with that Split.

Split · 03-05-2013, 02:06 PM

@dead man

I meant bar none in terms of the efficiency and quality of the higher education system, like all colleges and universities put together

but our education as a whole is kinda fucked up at the moment... meritocracy/ too many people getting useless degrees and not enough skilled labor

which sometimes pays better than workers at jobs that require degrees

i agree people should be helped, but capitalists on the whole (especially Americans) help more in terms of charity than any other nation.

equality of opportunity is wayyyy better in practice than equality of outcome/ resources, at least so far

anyways i respect your views as well, i just like arguing tbh

Split · 03-05-2013, 02:08 PM

maybe in public education we are 30th. but universities and colleges, we're 1

Zen · 03-05-2013, 02:11 PM

Haha arguing is my favorite past time.

And I agree about the equal of oppurtunity over equal share of resources SO FAR. But in America I see no equal oppurtunity at the moment. I see America as a big ass real life version of Monopoly but all the properties have been bought up and we the middle class or the working class is just going around the board paying taxes. I would say our government should fix these problems but they couldn't even sign a bill for the past three months to fix the economy....Wait let me rephrase that I meant the past three years they couldn't lol

Split · 03-05-2013, 02:13 PM

pretty baseless, but okay

Zen · 03-05-2013, 02:15 PM

What's baseless?

Witty · 03-05-2013, 02:16 PM

Scandinavian countries are literally the best countries in the world....Norway, Sweden, Denmark.....in everything, education, welfare, economics etc...they just know how to take care of their citizens. Other countries, including my own, could learn a lot from them.

Split · 03-05-2013, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenLand

But in America I see no equal oppurtunity at the moment. I see America as a big ass real life version of Monopoly but all the properties have been bought up and we the middle class or the working class is just going around the board paying taxes.

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Zen · 03-05-2013, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty

Scandinavian countries are literally the best countries in the world....Norway, Sweden, Denmark.....in everything, education, welfare, economics etc...they just know how to take care of their citizens. Other countries, including my own, could learn a lot from them.

This is right. The bottom line is not what's important. The people are.

Split · 03-05-2013, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty

Scandinavian countries are literally the best countries in the world....Norway, Sweden, Denmark.....in everything, education, welfare, economics etc...they just know how to take care of their citizens. Other countries, including my own, could learn a lot from them.

i'm incredibly jealous of their drivers' education for sure

Zen · 03-05-2013, 02:21 PM

Oh. Well I see no new businesses that have really sprung up except for maybe facebook which has taken off and that's because social media is a relatively new market. Monopolies were made illegal but shared monopolies still exist. Look at all the stores or products around you and two or three companies control the entire market. Apple and Microsoft control computers at the moment. Even in fast food with mcdonalds and burger king are the best example since capitalism is based on competition because competition ensures low prices, but bk and mcds aren't competing with each other. They have different options from each other(but they sell practically the same thing) but the prices are identical. Just saying how I see things

Zen · 03-05-2013, 02:23 PM

Not to mention that most of these stores are under an umbrella from a conglomerate like Time Warner, Walt Disney, etc.

Split · 03-05-2013, 02:26 PM

lots and lots of new business have sprung up.. very few peep through the rainforest canopy that is America's developed economy. i.e. Groupon, OKCupid, etc

my friends made a restaurant app and website that gained 15k likes in two weeks and have gotten $25k in investments, and a million dollar offer at a trade show for their business that theyve declined. theyre just two kids from Lowell. all you need is an idea.

Zen · 03-05-2013, 02:30 PM

Ok the rain forest thing is capitalist imperialism. Exploiting others lands for personal gains of a corporation who sends these people to third world countries to "nation build". Hate it.

And I'm glad for them. Ideas are good and as long they manage to keep scraping in capital their business may survive until a new corporate business moves in down the street and they'll be forced to sell or go bankrupt.

Btw I love this debate it is entertaining me to say the least lol. Good job Split you good people

dead man · 03-05-2013, 02:32 PM

whats the website your buddies made @Split?

Adonis · 03-05-2013, 02:35 PM

Sort of confused about topic...It's just a beat so I assume I can write about whatever and just make it flow?

I won't but I can essentially just flex or what?

Zen · 03-05-2013, 02:42 PM

Curious about that myself. I hope this week won't turn into flex fest.

Split · 03-05-2013, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dead man

whats the website your buddies made @Split?

it's called grab-abite. i dont think the app has launched yet but i have an advance copy on my phone

EDIT: http://graba-bite.com/

also its got less than 15K likes. the owner was hyping it up to me in the car I guess haha

03-05-2013, 01:59 PM	#42
dead man living Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 3,467 Battle Record: 33-18 Accomplishments - Hall of Fame Champed - AOWL Season 1 - Art of Writing League - AOWL Season 4 - Write Week V - GWL Season 1 Rep Power: 77606676	actually many european and english university programs are far superior to any US school.. not to mention all the developed countries that provide a free college education for their citizens i would not say US is the best, BAR NONE. by a long shot. yes we have a pretty accessible higher education system. but we also have a lot of people in debt from their student loans with no jobs available to pay them back. you can attribute that to personal failures or the system. either way, it's a problem. __________________ Zack Wicks for president

03-05-2013, 02:06 PM	#44
Split . Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 8,904 Battle Record: 27-22 Rep Power: 85899395	@dead man I meant bar none in terms of the efficiency and quality of the higher education system, like all colleges and universities put together but our education as a whole is kinda fucked up at the moment... meritocracy/ too many people getting useless degrees and not enough skilled labor which sometimes pays better than workers at jobs that require degrees i agree people should be helped, but capitalists on the whole (especially Americans) help more in terms of charity than any other nation. equality of opportunity is wayyyy better in practice than equality of outcome/ resources, at least so far anyways i respect your views as well, i just like arguing tbh __________________ http://split8.yolasite.com

03-05-2013, 02:08 PM	#45
Split . Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 8,904 Battle Record: 27-22 Rep Power: 85899395	maybe in public education we are 30th. but universities and colleges, we're 1 __________________ http://split8.yolasite.com

03-05-2013, 02:13 PM	#47
Split . Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 8,904 Battle Record: 27-22 Rep Power: 85899395	pretty baseless, but okay __________________ http://split8.yolasite.com

03-05-2013, 02:16 PM	#49
Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,794 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 82986458	Scandinavian countries are literally the best countries in the world....Norway, Sweden, Denmark.....in everything, education, welfare, economics etc...they just know how to take care of their citizens. Other countries, including my own, could learn a lot from them. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

03-05-2013, 01:59 PM	#41
Zen Arm the Homeless Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,104 Battle Record: 22-24 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 35079719	I have accumulated no debt. Sorry I'm just not a capitalist so I can't agree with America's system truly. I don't agree with exploiting others man. I just can't I'm not just Zen in name I try to be Zen in my daily life lol. Your views are your views and I respect you for voicing them honestly but I can't agree with America's get rich or die tryin mantra. I really can't. People should be helped man. People should be equal.

03-05-2013, 02:04 PM	#43
Zen Arm the Homeless Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,104 Battle Record: 22-24 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 35079719	Yeah US is like 30th or 40th in the world or something like that now I saw from some ad during the pres election but I can't say if that's true or not. But yeah I believe the system and the idiocy of the people are to be blamed, neither deserve the full blame I agree with that Split.

03-05-2013, 02:11 PM	#46
Zen Arm the Homeless Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,104 Battle Record: 22-24 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 35079719	Haha arguing is my favorite past time. And I agree about the equal of oppurtunity over equal share of resources SO FAR. But in America I see no equal oppurtunity at the moment. I see America as a big ass real life version of Monopoly but all the properties have been bought up and we the middle class or the working class is just going around the board paying taxes. I would say our government should fix these problems but they couldn't even sign a bill for the past three months to fix the economy....Wait let me rephrase that I meant the past three years they couldn't lol

03-05-2013, 02:15 PM	#48
Zen Arm the Homeless Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,104 Battle Record: 22-24 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 35079719	What's baseless?

03-05-2013, 02:21 PM	#53
Zen Arm the Homeless Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,104 Battle Record: 22-24 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 35079719	Oh. Well I see no new businesses that have really sprung up except for maybe facebook which has taken off and that's because social media is a relatively new market. Monopolies were made illegal but shared monopolies still exist. Look at all the stores or products around you and two or three companies control the entire market. Apple and Microsoft control computers at the moment. Even in fast food with mcdonalds and burger king are the best example since capitalism is based on competition because competition ensures low prices, but bk and mcds aren't competing with each other. They have different options from each other(but they sell practically the same thing) but the prices are identical. Just saying how I see things

03-05-2013, 02:23 PM	#54
Zen Arm the Homeless Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,104 Battle Record: 22-24 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 35079719	Not to mention that most of these stores are under an umbrella from a conglomerate like Time Warner, Walt Disney, etc.

03-05-2013, 02:26 PM	#55
Split . Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 8,904 Battle Record: 27-22 Rep Power: 85899395	lots and lots of new business have sprung up.. very few peep through the rainforest canopy that is America's developed economy. i.e. Groupon, OKCupid, etc my friends made a restaurant app and website that gained 15k likes in two weeks and have gotten $25k in investments, and a million dollar offer at a trade show for their business that theyve declined. theyre just two kids from Lowell. all you need is an idea. __________________ http://split8.yolasite.com

03-05-2013, 02:30 PM	#56
Zen Arm the Homeless Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,104 Battle Record: 22-24 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 35079719	Ok the rain forest thing is capitalist imperialism. Exploiting others lands for personal gains of a corporation who sends these people to third world countries to "nation build". Hate it. And I'm glad for them. Ideas are good and as long they manage to keep scraping in capital their business may survive until a new corporate business moves in down the street and they'll be forced to sell or go bankrupt. Btw I love this debate it is entertaining me to say the least lol. Good job Split you good people

03-05-2013, 02:32 PM	#57
dead man living Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 3,467 Battle Record: 33-18 Accomplishments - Hall of Fame Champed - AOWL Season 1 - Art of Writing League - AOWL Season 4 - Write Week V - GWL Season 1 Rep Power: 77606676	whats the website your buddies made @Split? __________________ Zack Wicks for president

03-05-2013, 02:35 PM	#58
Adonis Tsk Tsk Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Beer Goggles Posts: 4,834 Battle Record: 36-34 Champed - Lime Green Poetry Association - NFL Pick'em 2016-17 Rep Power: 9946446	Sort of confused about topic...It's just a beat so I assume I can write about whatever and just make it flow? I won't but I can essentially just flex or what? __________________ I'm tryna fuck like A-don-is TUPAC SHAKUR

03-05-2013, 02:42 PM	#59
Zen Arm the Homeless Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,104 Battle Record: 22-24 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 35079719	Curious about that myself. I hope this week won't turn into flex fest.