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Witty
04-11-2016, 04:17 PM
I ask because I am personally unsure...pondered it on and off for years.

Obviously he's a legend, but in terms of a list...I honestly don't know where I'd put him.

Inno
04-11-2016, 04:28 PM
Where ever you rank cube at.... Put snoop 2 ranks ahead.

Ghost1
04-11-2016, 05:01 PM
Top20

Certain
04-11-2016, 05:25 PM
Snoop Dogg at his best was better than Ice Cube. But Ice Cube was far more consistent —he's actually still really good, when he raps.

To me, they're the top two from Los Angeles.

Mr. J
04-11-2016, 05:47 PM
25 spots higher than Pac


40 spots higher than Em



so somewhere in my top 25

Razah
04-11-2016, 07:07 PM
I've never listened to a complete Snoop Dogg album.

*runs away*

Ghost1
04-11-2016, 07:19 PM
It's ok if u haven't heard doggystyle....Every1 of ur favorite rappers bit the the shit to death

Barcotic
04-11-2016, 10:46 PM
never enjoyed him lyrically but he did have a voice n swag about him that no one could duplicate

Hush
04-11-2016, 11:07 PM
Snoop top 10 alive arguably

jilti
04-12-2016, 01:44 AM
1990's Young snoop was a beaasssttttt. 2000's + snoop is blah

oats
04-12-2016, 03:08 AM
Doggystyle is arguably the best rap debut all time. As a whole, I'd put Snoop in the top 15, maybe higher. Easy to take his crossover appeal for granted, but he's a cultural icon way beyond rap.

Mr. J
04-12-2016, 11:51 AM
Doggfather used to be in my walkman all day...

he blends with tracks so smoothly...was listening to 9mm the other day and was like yeeaaaaa

The Ultimate Hater
04-12-2016, 01:29 PM
snoops a fucken hustla and a cultural icon..

he more than deserve his place on 'hip hop greats' lists.. even if 90% of his songs are poppy garbage these days you know hes doing what he got to do to survive n keep the cash flowing.

anime_boners
04-12-2016, 01:38 PM
and the winner for most "textcee" answer possible is-
never enjoyed him lyrically but he did have a voice n swag about him that no one could duplicate

Aero
04-12-2016, 02:27 PM
and the winner for most "textcee" answer possible is-

LOL

Barcotic
04-12-2016, 05:41 PM
nah I just appreciate when guys rhyme more than 1-2 syllables together

snoop wasn't complex like that

Ghost1
04-12-2016, 06:07 PM
Smh

Certain
04-12-2016, 06:10 PM
Doggystyle is arguably the best rap debut all time.

If we take out groups and solo debuts by rappers who were in groups, I'd have it as the best non-New York debut album, probably, maybe.

These are my top 10 debut albums that fit into that category (solo rapper who wasn't previously in a group that released an album):

1. Nas, Illmatic
2. Notorious B.I.G., Ready to Die
3. Jay-Z, Reasonable Doubt
4. O.C., Word ... Life
5. Slick Rick, The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
6. Big Pun, Capital Punishment
7. Snoop Doggy Dogg, DoggyStyle
8. Young Jeezy, Let’s Get It: Thug Motivation 101
9. Redman, Whut? Thee Album
10. 50 Cent, Get Rich or Die Tryin'

(Note: I counted Infinite as Eminem's debut and Section.80 as Kendrick Lamar's debut.)

Obviously, my taste swings toward the East Coast. I don't have a problem with someone having DoggyStyle at or nearer to the top of that list. But I will say that putting DoggyStyle above The Chronic seems like a stretch.

Mr. J
04-12-2016, 06:26 PM
Get these reps for Thug Motivation

Ghost1
04-12-2016, 06:47 PM
Section. 80 was dope tho....maybe not top 10 tho

Also WORD to thug motivation. That shit still slaps.

jilti
04-12-2016, 07:03 PM
Doggystyle is arguably the best rap debut all time. As a whole, I'd put Snoop in the top 15, maybe higher. Easy to take his crossover appeal for granted, but he's a cultural icon way beyond rap.

Agreed. Think about all the hype and anticipation for his debut album after the chronic. Not only did he live up to it, he surpassed what people expected of it

oats
04-12-2016, 07:11 PM
nah I just appreciate when guys rhyme more than 1-2 syllables together

snoop wasn't complex like that

Multis: Barcotic
Punches: Tie
Wordplay: Snoop edges it
Flow: Snoop
Vote: Snoop

oats
04-12-2016, 07:16 PM
If we take out groups and solo debuts by rappers who were in groups, I'd have it as the best non-New York debut album, probably, maybe.

These are my top 10 debut albums that fit into that category (solo rapper who wasn't previously in a group that released an album):

1. Nas, Illmatic
2. Notorious B.I.G., Ready to Die
3. Jay-Z, Reasonable Doubt
4. O.C., Word ... Life
5. Slick Rick, The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
6. Big Pun, Capital Punishment
7. Snoop Doggy Dogg, DoggyStyle
8. Aceyalone, All Balls Don't Bounce
9. Young Jeezy, Let’s Get It: Thug Motivation 101
10. Redman, Whut? Thee Album

(Note: I counted Infinite as Eminem's debut and Section.80 as Kendrick Lamar's debut.)

Obviously, my taste swings toward the East Coast. I don't have a problem with someone having DoggyStyle at or nearer to the top of that list. But I will say that putting DoggyStyle above The Chronic seems like a stretch.

man, I still haven't been able to get a hold of All Balls Don't Bounce. Couldn't find it on torrents like a year or so ago when you mentioned it.

but yeah, I'd put it behind Nas and Biggie for sure, personally I like it better than Reasonable Doubt since Hov was riding off the established NY classicism of Illmatic and Ready to Die (not to say RD was derivative, just not groundbreaking). You could say that about Doggystyle vis a vis The Chronic, but I'd disagree. The Chronic established the west coast stylistically, but Doggystyle perfected it - I think it's aged a lot better than The Chronic tbh.

Barcotic
04-12-2016, 07:35 PM
lol funny

what, I can't not like snoop?

it's not like I don't listen to other rappers. snoop just rhymes blue w/ poo n gets away w/ it cuz of his swag n voice

I prefer others, so suck a dick

Certain
04-12-2016, 07:36 PM
man, I still haven't been able to get a hold of All Balls Don't Bounce. Couldn't find it on torrents like a year or so ago when you mentioned it.

but yeah, I'd put it behind Nas and Biggie for sure, personally I like it better than Reasonable Doubt since Hov was riding off the established NY classicism of Illmatic and Ready to Die (not to say RD was derivative, just not groundbreaking). You could say that about Doggystyle vis a vis The Chronic, but I'd disagree. The Chronic established the west coast stylistically, but Doggystyle perfected it - I think it's aged a lot better than The Chronic tbh.

The Chronic was more G, DoggyStyle was more Funk.

Mr. J
04-12-2016, 07:49 PM
lol funny
snoop just rhymes blue w/ poo n gets away w/ it cuz of his swag n voice

How do you make it through the day with these observational skills

Barcotic
04-12-2016, 07:50 PM
smh w/e yo

oats
04-12-2016, 08:10 PM
The Chronic was more G, DoggyStyle was more Funk.

on point.

Barcotic I said you had the better multis and tied for punches, wasn't a hate vote or anything.

uh-oh
04-12-2016, 08:31 PM
Snoop is like 13th on my all time list if i had one

Mike Wrecka
04-12-2016, 08:56 PM
Snoop had one great album. The rest can be classified as good to horrible. He does have a shit load of really incredible guest appearances tho

Mr. J
04-12-2016, 11:43 PM
Snoop cemented himself as a leading influence in Hip Hop though....
















fa shizzle my nizzle cooking with Martha Stewrizzle

Certain
04-13-2016, 04:26 PM
quaker oats:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VgSxJkaC-A

But I realized I'm an idiot for including it on the list because Aceyalone had made two albums with Freestyle Fellowship.

oats
04-13-2016, 09:35 PM
you da man, thanks.

Hush
04-14-2016, 01:26 AM
Multis: Barcotic
Punches: Tie
Wordplay: Snoop edges it
Flow: Snoop
Vote: Snoop

Dead

Saitama
04-14-2016, 04:39 AM
The Chronic was more G, DoggyStyle was more Funk.

More influential than Barcotic vs ill Nika circa 2011?

anime_boners
04-14-2016, 02:10 PM
it's not like I don't listen to other rappers. snoop just rhymes blue w/ poo n gets away w/ it cuz of his swag n voice

ppl aren't roasting you for not liking snoop, so much as the reasoning behind it

like.. you say he "gets away" with simple rhymes because his voice and his swag (there's more to it than that, that makes him dope). but to be quite honest all the things that make snoop dope are more important to hip hop than his ability to make complex rhyme schemes.

gimme music with vibe and personality over any of them monotone lyrical miracle cats any day.

and I like underground/indie hip hop too. I fuck with a lot of "lyricist" type rappers. but they music has to have a vibe to it. and multies and punchlines for the sake of multis n punchlines gets old quick.

there's no wrong opinion tho here tho, nahmean. to each their own, diffrint strokes, etc.

Certain
04-14-2016, 02:56 PM
Thinking of a master plan
Cause ain’t nothing but sweat inside my hand
So I dig into my pocket, all my money spent
So I dig deeper, but still coming up with lint
So I start my mission, leave my residence
Thinking how could I get some dead presidents
I need money, I used to be a stick-up kid
So I think of all the devious things I did
I used to roll up, this is a hold up, ain’t nothing funny
Stop smiling, be still, don’t nothing move but the money
But now I learned to earn cause I’m righteous
I feel great so maybe I might just search for a 9 to 5
If I strive then maybe I’ll stay alive
So I walk up the street, whistling this
Feeling out of place cause, man, do I miss
A pen and a paper, a stereo, a tape of
Me and Eric B and a nice big plate of
This, which is my favorite dish
But without no money it’s still a wish
Cause I don’t like to dream about getting paid
So I dig into the books of the rhymes that I made
So now's a test to see if I got pull
Hit the studio, cause I’m paid in full

"Trash one-syllable rhyming." —Barcotic

Mr. J
04-14-2016, 03:01 PM
thats obviously Rakim Certain

Certain
04-14-2016, 03:07 PM
Doesn't change my point.

Mr. J
04-14-2016, 03:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7t8eoA_1jQ

Aero
04-14-2016, 03:51 PM
The textcee side of Barcotic is just too strong. Fucks with him in his day to day too. I asked him if he seen the movie Meet the Fockers he said nah Bc it's forced wp.

jilti
04-14-2016, 04:28 PM
Eric b. & rakim still go hard in the car

Aero
04-14-2016, 04:30 PM
Eric b. & rakim still go hard in the car

You a real one.

Barcotic
04-14-2016, 04:31 PM
lmao

jilti
04-14-2016, 04:49 PM
You a real one.

U know whats up.
Eric b. for president

Greed
04-14-2016, 05:43 PM
Top 20 overall influence on the culture.

Geno
04-14-2016, 05:54 PM
Doggystyle stay in rotation during warm weather.

Top 20 somewhere

Witty
04-14-2016, 11:50 PM
I feel like I shouldn't be the first person pointing out that 'Who am I' is one of the grestest hip hop tracks off all time.

Certain
04-15-2016, 12:12 AM
He has multiple songs among the greatest. "Murder Was the Case," "Nuthin' but a G Thang" and "2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted" also qualify. ("Gin and Juice" became his biggest song because frat bros love the chorus.)

~RustyGunZ~
04-15-2016, 02:08 AM
lol cronus

Mr. J
04-15-2016, 11:26 AM
Never really enjoyed 2 of Americas tbh...I mean it felt good but I can't vibe to it like when I first heard it

jilti
04-15-2016, 12:14 PM
Snoop murdered that deep cover song. Swagged the fuck out on that track